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Donnell Keown

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(Intelliscope Pointing) xt8i Orion
« on: December 23, 2017, 10:22:58 PM »
Im with my xt8i and get get it below 5.0 on the warp factor ...I did the decoder test along with the azm test on my hand control it seems as if my decoders are working...I have tried several times aligning vega and capella and doing it at a couple min at the most but I keep getting a 5.2 5.4 twist reading....  any advice ??? Would be greatly appreciated



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Re: (Intelliscope Pointing) xt8i Orion
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2017, 11:58:27 PM »
Are you absolutely certain you are considering and pointing the range to Vega and Capella?

Folks have made that error before...

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Re: (Intelliscope Pointing) xt8i Orion
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2017, 09:06:34 AM »
And you might want to try stars further apart from latitude, Altair rather than Vega for example or Rigel rather than Capella.  Always avoid alignment stars less than @ 20 degrees above the horizon.
Polaris is a really dependable choice.  I don't recall whether you have to utilize it as 1st or 2nd star for intelliscope but it's in the guide.
Be sure to use your highest mag ep or one using a reticle (crosshairs) to determine centre.
Be certain your initial " straight up" is 90 degrees off the ground board airplane.
Last, mark your working points as quickly as possible as the system drifts since it waits.  Quicker will get simpler withpractice.

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Re: (Intelliscope Pointing) xt8i Orion
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2017, 01:55:03 AM »
Make sure alignment stars are at least 30 degrees above the horizon. Use a crosshair eyepiece, if you dont have one you can use a high power and rack the star out of focus to fill most of the field. I think the software compensates for the time taken between centering alignment stars, so you don't need to rush.

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Re: (Intelliscope Pointing) xt8i Orion
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2017, 12:40:29 PM »
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im using my xt8i and get get it below 5.0 on the warp factor ....i did the decoder test and the azm test on my hand controller it seems like my decoders are working...i have tried several times aligning vega and capella and doing it in a couple min at the most but i keep getting a 5.2 5.4 warp reading.... any advice ???would be greatly appreciated

To the best of my understanding the warp factor is driven by time between stars. A couple of minutes is a long time.  In 2 minutes the second star has moved .25 degrees from where it was when you aligned the first one.

So you got a high warp factor.  How did you do finding targets?  Based on 2 minutes between stars you should be off about .25 degrees. That should still be pretty workable.

Tell us about your find experience.  If you are finding your targets, who cares what the warp factor says?

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Re: (Intelliscope Pointing) xt8i Orion
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2018, 04:38:01 PM »
I used Capella and Vega tonight with warp at 0.7. So those two stars should be fine. But Capella and Altair would be better spread of stars.

Recheck how well the OTA is plumbed to vertical. Do this indoors. Not a part of the alignment process for intelliscope. You need a carpenter's level for this.

First verify the floor is level. Rotate the level 360 on the floor to verify total floor levelness and put the base on the levelest part of your floor. Rotate the OTA vertical and use the level to verify the OTA is absolutely vertical and plumb. If it isn't you need to add or remove a washer from the OTA stop attached to the base.

I had to do this process twice on my scope. Works fine ever since.

Good luck.

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Re: (Intelliscope Pointing) xt8i Orion
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2018, 11:56:50 PM »
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im using my xt8i and get get it below 5.0 on the warp factor ....i did the decoder test and the azm test on my hand controller it seems like my decoders are working...i have tried several times aligning vega and capella and doing it in a couple min at the most but i keep getting a 5.2 5.4 warp reading.... any advice ???would be greatly appreciated

To the best of my understanding the warp factor is driven by time between stars. A couple of minutes is a long time.  In 2 minutes the second star has moved .25 degrees from where it was when you aligned the first one.

So you got a high warp factor.  How did you do finding targets?  Based on 2 minutes between stars you should be off about .25 degrees. That should still be pretty workable.

Tell us about your find experience.  If you are finding your targets, who cares what the warp factor says?
I started with Vega and cappella as they are the two easiest stars to find I practice for a few minutes and then I lined up  Vega then I put to the tube 90° on the same line of plane Then I turn my hand controller on it said put tube to 90degrees Then hit enter and it brought up at different stars name for the Firstar alignment but I scroll through to Vega....I put Vegas within the eyepiece and centered in about 45 seconds it took me about a minute for Capaella I tried it several times and I kept getting 5.2 to 5.4 warp factor

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Re: (Intelliscope Pointing) xt8i Orion
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2018, 05:35:35 AM »
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I used Capella and Vega tonight with warp at 0.7. So those two stars should be fine. But Capella and Altair would be better spread of stars.

Recheck how well the OTA is plumbed to vertical. Do this indoors. Not a part of the alignment process for intelliscope. You need a carpenter's level for this.

First verify the floor is level. Rotate the level 360 on the floor to verify total floor levelness and put the base on the levelest part of your floor. Rotate the OTA vertical and use the level to verify the OTA is absolutely vertical and plumb. If it isn't you need to add or remove a washer from the OTA stop attached to the base.

I had to do this process twice on my scope. Works fine ever since.

Good luck.

I checked it before I started and I also checked it on the hand controller it it came out to 89.9 and sometimes flickered and 90.0 straight up and down I tried loosening the stop a couple turns to see if it did anything no luck

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Re: (Intelliscope Pointing) xt8i Orion
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2018, 02:59:41 PM »
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im using my xt8i and get get it below 5.0 on the warp factor ....i did the decoder test and the azm test on my hand controller it seems like my decoders are working...i have tried several times aligning vega and capella and doing it in a couple min at the most but i keep getting a 5.2 5.4 warp reading.... any advice ???would be greatly appreciated

To the best of my understanding the warp factor is driven by time between stars. A couple of minutes is a long time.  In 2 minutes the second star has moved .25 degrees from where it was when you aligned the first one.

So you got a high warp factor.  How did you do finding targets?  Based on 2 minutes between stars you should be off about .25 degrees. That should still be pretty workable.

Tell us about your find experience.  If you are finding your targets, who cares what the warp factor says?
No I couldn’t find anything I can only get a 5.2 to 5.4 warp factor I’m sure I put the telescope correctly together even went back to doublecheck everything I watch the video several times before I even started it I could almost put it together blindfolded I hope it’s just me and not the telescope

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Re: (Intelliscope Pointing) xt8i Orion
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2018, 02:17:40 PM »
I amVery confident I put the scope together correctly I watch so many videos before I even received a scope on how to put it together I follow step-by-step instructions from the video from Orion so I feel confident I put the telescope together correctly I tried the two star alignment with Vega and Kapella I could only get a 5.2 warp factor so way switch to Altair and capella Same thing 5.2 to 5.4 I tried them several times. I practice finding the stars so I could do it pretty quickly before I even did it to star alignment so at the most 2 to 3 minutes to do the two star alignment the manual says several minutes but I did it as quickly as I could and I still get on the 5.2 to 5.4 consistently so I have no idea what’s going on

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Re: (Intelliscope Pointing) xt8i Orion
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2018, 04:05:57 PM »
Try aligning the two stars in less than a minute or so. Best if they're on different sides of the Meridian (I.e East and West sides of the sky). This does take a few times to get it down right. Mizar and Vega work pretty good.It also helps to select the alignment star before slewing and pressing enter.

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Re: (Intelliscope Pointing) xt8i Orion
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2018, 07:15:16 PM »
See my previous post to you.

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Re: (Intelliscope Pointing) xt8i Orion
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2018, 12:50:57 AM »
Call Orion. Their customer support is reported to be extremely good.

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Re: (Intelliscope Pointing) xt8i Orion
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2018, 12:59:15 AM »
Did you put double sided tape on the encoder disk located on the base? This helps a lot. This disk can slip a bit. I remember getting similar warps as you before I added the tape.

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Re: (Intelliscope Pointing) xt8i Orion
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2018, 11:21:06 AM »
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See my previous post to you.

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