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Teflon Mayorga

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A dad that needs some advice from the gurus.
« on: December 24, 2017, 12:13:46 AM »
Hello. New member long time reader.lol
Im going to try and make a very long story short.lol
Im 36 I got into astronomy as a kid.
I have 6. . lol. .
My previous meade ds 2114?  Goto gave up the ghost and the starfinder ds6?  Is in disrepair.
I had the 114 pointed towards the moon by manually pushing it and the children loved it.
Heres my delemia, 6 children equals tight....very tight. .  Budget I want a range that can monitor and I want it large enough to really enjoy the rings of saturn or the bands on jupiter.
I know a 6 inch will do so because I remember looking through my old one but would prefer some possibly just a bit larger such as a inch.
I understand how the eyepiece correlates with the fl to give magnificatio and I would like the planets to look a little larger than a cpl mm across.  My old 6inch the images were miniature and my understanding then was incredibly limited I had been using the affordable.9" eypieces.  I recently purchased a coulple 1.25" in anticipation of showing them the nighttime sky.
Im just throwing all of this info out hoping someone can give me some guidance.
Id like to remain under $600 (less is better.lol) I understand you get what you purchase this im not setting my hopes to high.lol.
Ive tried to find an old meade ds 8 or 10 on a stone but they seem to all be gone.lol.
Ive tried looking at some of the direct from china stoves but uncertain of quality.  Ioptron. .  Hope I spelled that right... Seems decent, the goto will be benificial particularly if the children wanted to set this up and I had been at work or whatnot but I want them to learn how to level an extent and then align it with polaris...
Ok im done ranting...lol. .
Thanks for your time and thank you for letting me be here with yall...



carmiphypart

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Re: A dad that needs some advice from the gurus.
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2017, 09:16:12 AM »
Check out the Celestron SLT 130. It should run you about $400'ish. A quick search on eBay returned several options.

http://www.ebay.com/...lt 130&_sacat=0

I've owned the Meade DS mounts and have found the SLT mounts to be superior in performance and durability. The DS mounts use nylon gears all around. In spite of the fact that the DS mounts use a worm (again, nylon), they still don't track as well as the SLT mounts with somewhat rough cut metal spur gears.

I use the SLT mounts for outreach (especially solar) and have had great experiences with them. They stand up well to rough handling by kids, track on an object all night long, are very portable, and super quick to set up, especially if you use the Solar System Alignment option that can be done on the Sun, moon, and visible planets.

If you can afford an extra $80 or so for the SkyPortal module, you can use the mount with SkySafari on your iDevice or Android device. I find that kids today are much more receptive when I'm using an app on my tablet to control my scope and show them all the details about what they're seeing in the eyepiece.

Hope this helps.

-Steve

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Re: A dad that needs some advice from the gurus.
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2018, 10:17:50 PM »
Hmm
6SE from a good ratings CN User for $500

http://www.cloudynig...-celestron-6se/

I also heard where a guy bought a used 8SE for under $750 recently

Eric Graf

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Re: A dad that needs some advice from the gurus.
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2018, 09:14:29 PM »
Hell yeah. Jump on that 6SE.

Ivan Kim

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Re: A dad that needs some advice from the gurus.
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2018, 05:38:17 PM »
Keep in mind that a 6" f/5 reflector has a focal length of only 650mm. The eyepieces supplied with the Celestron telescope will produce only 26 (25mm) and 72x (9mm). Jupiter and Saturn will appear fairly small through an eyepiece at less than 200x. Such a magnification will require a 3x Barlow lens and the 9mm, a 2x Barlow lens and a shorter focal length eyepiece, or a very short focal length eyepiece. Short focal length eyepieces usually have little eye relief.

https://www.astronom...e-relief_t.aspx

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Re: A dad that needs some advice from the gurus.
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2018, 07:40:53 PM »
If we wanted to do some pictures (i think maybe it could be neat for science class and just showing their friends) can these scopes produce decent photos?

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Re: A dad that needs some advice from the gurus.
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2018, 04:00:14 PM »
Is there any reason you are avoiding an eight inch dob?

Unless you need goto, or tracking, a Dob is by far the best bang for the buck.

Alex

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Re: A dad that needs some advice from the gurus.
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2018, 08:56:13 AM »
Alex. I was thinking tracking so the kids can use their moms camera and take pictures. I looked at the zuhmell z10 and 12 i believe which seem like excellent deals

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Re: A dad that needs some advice from the gurus.
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2018, 02:00:52 AM »
I third the idea of that 6SE...

If you want new, our host here - Astonomics - has the 5" Maksutov Cassegrain with full computerized Goto:
https://www.astronom...ope_p18624.aspx

for $529. It comes with 25 and 9mm EP's, so spending about 40 bucks more on a Barlow gives you 25, 12.5, 9, and 4.5 EP's, though 4.5 is pushing it for that scope.

A Mak-Cass with give you glorious planetary views, can handle enough DSO's to keep everyone happy, and will do AP nicely.

But I'd still jump on that 6SE. That's a LOT of scope for the money. It does everything good.

..Joe

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Re: A dad that needs some advice from the gurus.
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2018, 10:28:50 AM »
I am speaking with the owner. Still need the bosses approval...lol... She is the chief....
Just had to pick up a few pairs of glasses... 3 of them amd both of us wear glasses...lol... So we will see...lol

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Re: A dad that needs some advice from the gurus.
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2018, 05:45:54 AM »
Is that se a maksutov?
Guys please forgive my ingnorance. All i knew when i was younger was reflectors and refractors..lol.

Im very grateful to yall for all this advice... It is greatly appreciated.

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Re: A dad that needs some advice from the gurus.
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2018, 11:48:55 PM »
I'm guessing by your username you are in Omaha Nebraska?

http://ames.craigsli...5743966401.html

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Re: A dad that needs some advice from the gurus.
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2018, 05:53:41 PM »
Close..lol.. Council bluffs.. Grew up in omaha Though..lol

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Re: A dad that needs some advice from the gurus.
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2018, 11:22:24 PM »
I inquired but its already gone.lol

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Re: A dad that needs some advice from the gurus.
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2018, 04:23:59 AM »
The 6SE is a 6" Schmidt Cassegrain. The 127 SLT I posted is a 5" (127mm) Maksutov Cassegrain.

They're similar, but different. Generally, the Maks (MCTs) will have a little longer focal length - but generally smaller apertures - for their mirror than the Schmidts (SCTs), but their designs are both still that of a reflector: it's just how they control the light and where they reflect it TO that's different.

The MCTs have a Meniscus up front, and the glass itself is silvered for the secondary; the SCT's have a corrector plate up front and have a separate mirror. The front lenses are to correct for aberrations.

Others of similar type are Dall-Kirkham and Ritchey–Chrétien telescopes.

Head spinning yet?

Don't worry: It gets worse...

 

..Joe