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Title: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: abtempoecar on December 24, 2017, 05:43:40 AM
Following the discussion:
https://www.cloudyni...on-skyquest-45/ (https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/577131-awb-onesky-or-orion-skyquest-45/)

1 individual told me to get a larger telescope than two of the scopes I listed in that thread, especially an 8-inch dobsonian.
I found out the individual was a year younger than me, yet he can carry an 8-inch scope.

The reason I'm asking this is because I'm generally not that strong.  That is why one of my main concerns when purchasing a telescope would be whether I could transmit it.  (One thing I know though, is I will carry my cpu tower with parts.)

Thus, can a 14 year old carry a 8 if not, 6-inch dob?
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: bamrocorna on December 31, 2017, 03:57:32 PM
Unless you are handicapped in some way, the answer is yes, you can. You don't have to be that strong. You MAY need to make two trips, but neither piece weighs in at more than 20 pounds. It should be an easy lift.
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: afelfillia on December 31, 2017, 04:36:27 PM
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Unless you are handicapped in some way, the answer is yes, you can. You don't have to be that strong. You MAY need to make two trips, but neither piece weighs in at more than 20 pounds. It should be an easy lift.

Phew, at least that removes something from my infinite list of worries.

Thanks for calming me down! (Also, thanks for the help in my last thread)
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: Prasanna Patel on December 31, 2017, 09:47:03 PM
Not a problem.
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: vidysriret on January 01, 2018, 09:02:30 AM
Yes, an 8" Dobsonian can be broken down into two, ~20-lb. pieces -- consider this Orion SkyQuest XT8 Classic Dobsonian Telescope's specifications pagehttp://www.telescope...pe/p/102005.uts (http://www.telescope.com/Orion-SkyQuest-XT8-Classic-Dobsonian-Telescope/p/102005.uts) :

Weight, optical tube: 20.3 lbs.
Weight, mount/tripod: 20.7 lbs.
Weight, fully assembled: 41.0 lbs.
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: Terry Payton on January 07, 2018, 10:11:17 PM
I'm 14, and while I don't own an 8" Dob myself I've borrowed one and moved it on my own with no problems.
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: Chuck Klem on January 08, 2018, 01:02:47 AM
Dobs are generally more clumsy than heavy until you get above 12". The tube of my 12" is slightly over 1.5m long and weighs, maybe, 24kg with the finder. If you can pick up your friends or siblings, even a 12" would be little problem except for the length; it won't duck going through doors.
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: twenuvtentu on January 08, 2018, 07:48:48 AM
When it comes to dobs, the weight isn't as troublesome as the volume. When I was a couple years younger than you are, I had some trouble carrying the OTA of my 6" dob from my bedroom to the front yard, only because it barely fit between my little arms.

And then, one night, tragedy struck: I smashed it into the door frame, and my primary mirror cracked. From then on, everything I saw through my telescope had a ghostly double image. It would be about 10 years before I could afford another telescope.

So: yes you'll be able to handle an 8" dob (and you'll only get bigger and stronger, remember), but be careful!
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: steviselath on January 08, 2018, 07:18:37 PM
In addition to what others have shared, consider how far you plan on carrying it. A trip of 10 meters is far easier than 100, or up and down stairs.
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: pernogori on January 09, 2018, 12:40:43 AM
How do you plan on removing the xbox controller from his/her hands first?
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: redsfilrerig on January 09, 2018, 08:27:04 PM
The 8" f6 dobs so common are truly a scope for the masses,young or old.I am now physically challenged and merely a shadow of what I once was. However I have an Orion 8" dob that is still relatively easy even for me to move and set up.The base has a handle making it very easy to move and place with one hand.The tube though sorta long (not really) is light enough that anyone over 50 lbs and no physical limitations can set it up. Even those of us with challenging limits can very often manage this size.
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: sainomaters on January 10, 2018, 09:32:43 AM
Again, your in the Philippines , its says Metro in your sig. How light polluted are your skies ? Urban area where your going to have to carry/move the scope to view ? Limited by LP to the brighter stuff, moon/planets, double stars ? ? MAYBE the xt 6 is all you really need , a 6in scope in good seeing reveals a lot on the moon and planets, and theres certain attributes (good qualities )  to a 6in AT f8 . And how much are $$$$ these scopes in the Philippes? Here there relatively in-expensive , and a cheap 2 wheel dolly with a couple of bungee cords can be your "scope moving " friend . KISS
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: Calvin Dolla on January 11, 2018, 03:17:14 PM
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Again, your in the Philippines , its says Metro in your sig. How light polluted are your skies ? Urban area where your going to have to carry/move the scope to view ? Limited by LP to the brighter stuff, moon/planets, double stars ? ? MAYBE the xt 6 is all you really need , a 6in scope in good seeing reveals a lot on the moon and planets, and theres certain attributes (good qualities )  to a 6in AT f8 . And how much are $$$$ these scopes in the Philippes? Here there relatively in-expensive , and a cheap 2 wheel dolly with a couple of bungee cords can be your "scope moving " friend . KISS

Like I said in the other thread, I have someone in the US to send it to me. (To answer your question, most telescopes in my country are junk-quality. One store sells Celestron products at a very high price.)--------------------------------------
Thank you all for sharing your thoughts!

I decided now to get a Skywatcher 6 inch dob instead of an 8 inch because while I might be able to carry the 8-inch, it is way too big for my size (I'm really small for my age. Late development, perhaps?) I know this because my school has an Orion 10-inch Intelliscope.
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: Lauro Mason on January 12, 2018, 06:38:39 PM
Unless the 14 year old is a 98 pound weakling, then yes, of course. Any healthy 14 year old should easily be able to handle 50 pounds or more, depending upon whether they just sit and play video games, or actually live.

..Joe
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: erenlinra on January 13, 2018, 07:00:25 AM
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Unless the 14 year old is a 98 pound weakling, then yes, of course. Any healthy 14 year old should easily be able to handle 50 pounds or more, depending upon whether they just sit and play video games, or actually live.

..Joe

While I'm a dedicated dota player, at least I actually exercise and live life.
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: Jeremy Fokused on January 13, 2018, 07:19:26 AM
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When it comes to dobs, the weight isn't as troublesome as the volume. When I was a couple years younger than you are, I had some trouble carrying the OTA of my 6" dob from my bedroom to the front yard, only because it barely fit between my little arms.

And then, one night, tragedy struck: I smashed it into the door frame, and my primary mirror cracked. From then on, everything I saw through my telescope had a ghostly double image. It would be about 10 years before I could afford another telescope.

So: yes you'll be able to handle an 8" dob (and you'll only get bigger and stronger, remember), but be careful!

The saddest story EVER.  Well OK, not refugees sinking into the ocean sad, but getting down on the list.
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: Brian Ross on January 15, 2018, 10:40:31 AM
At age 12, my 5' tall self was carrying a 4.25" aluminum-tubed reflector, with german equatorial mount on a heavy pipe pier, completely assembled,
2 or 3 houses down the street to a vacant lot. It weighed more than a 6" dob, but probably not heavier than a complete 8" dob.
Carrying the scope to the backyard in 2 pieces, base and tube separately, should be a cinch for you.
Just be very careful around stairs!
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: Mike Meckler on January 16, 2018, 03:32:31 AM
Why carry it? Put it on a cart or a hand truck of some kind.

My 8" Doblives in the garage. I don't carry it I roll it. Then I lift it off the cart at the observation site. Can be lifted offas two pieces if you like.

A 6" dob is about the weight of 2 16 pound bowling balls. An 8" Dob, about the weight of 3.

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Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: Cesar Taylor on January 18, 2018, 05:28:54 AM
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Unless the 14 year old is a 98 pound weakling, then yes, of course. Any healthy 14 year old should easily be able to handle 50 pounds or more, depending upon whether they just sit and play video games, or actually live.

..Joe

That is a rather inappropriate/ill consideredthing to say to someone who is still growing. I amguessing you have never been toAsia or the Philippines. While in the US obesity is a problem at an early age, it is not that way everywhere or even for some American kids, including my son or myself when I was that age. I didn't weigh 100 pounds until my growth spurt around my 15th birthday...and my son has followed the same pattern although a little taller to start with and about 5 more pounds on him. I was a farm kid so I did plenty of heavy lifting despite my small size at the time. Kids raised in urban/suburban homes are less likely to get as much opportunity to lug around heavy objects.

And that is without even considering females who on average are smaller. So I wouldn't call kids who very well might not have hit their growth spurt and are at far healthier BMI's than our own average youth "98 pound weaklings."

Handling half or more of one's body weight "easily" is a dubious proposition when it is a bulky deadlift.

As has been noted, the 6 and 8" Dobs get around this by being portable in two sections of weights more appropriate for kids of various weights and sizes.
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: suctoleshe on January 18, 2018, 05:36:56 AM
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After the discussion here:https://www.cloudyni...on-skyquest-45/ (https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/577131-awb-onesky-or-orion-skyquest-45/)

One person told me to get a bigger telescope than two of the scopes I listed in that thread, specifically an 8-inch dobsonian.
I found out that the person was a year younger than me, yet he can carry an 8-inch scope.

The reason I'm asking this is because I'm generally not that strong. That's why one of my biggest worries when buying a telescope is whether or not I could carry it. (One thing I know though, is I can carry my cpu tower with parts.)

So, can a 14 year old carry a 8 if not, 6-inch dob?
I think the better question is whether a 14 year old would want to have to lift and move a 6 or 8 inch full size Dobsonian. Unless you can move it on a cart, as I show in my photo, I would say the answer is no.Looking at the other discussion I think you make a very good case for why you would like to consider the skyquest 4.5 full size Dobsonian or a tabletop Dobsonian telescope like the AWB which has a 130 mm aperture.

This is especially true if you will have to carry it on a bus at times. I am a big man and I would not want to take a 6" or 8" full size dobsonian on a bus.

Remember, in addition to the telescope you still need to carry your accessories as well as some sort of chair or stool.

I copy in your first post from the other thread.

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I'm back after a long time of inactivity!

So, I'm really lost about which telescope to buy. (Dang it, INTP)
I started about a year ago, when I wanted to buy some of Celestron's Powerseeker models. After a bit of research, I found that the mounts were wobbly, and I didn't want that.
I then decided on getting an Orion Spaceprobe 3 because I didn't have budget to buy bigger scopes I wanted.
Then, I also found out that also had slightly wobbly mounts and the eyepieces were mediocre. I wanted a better, bigger scope but portable and inexpensive.
So I'm still deciding on two telescopes:
The AWB Onesky or the Skyquest 4.5.

I know that while the AWB Onesky has better light-gathering abilities, the Skyquest 4.5 has better optics and longer focal length.
So, which is the better telescope?Some things to note:
- I don't want to carry things heavier than my CPU.
- I'm short (4'10).
- Maximum budget is about $350.

The only negative to a table top designs is that they require a table, box or other place to put them to be at a comfortable working height. If you have that conveniently available then they can be VERY good upgrades from a 76 mm Spaceprobe.

The 4.5 inch/114 mm XT4.5 Skyquest (900 mm FL) will gather 2.25X the light of your 76 mm Spaceprobe. That is a significant upgrade.   If you are going to use it primarily at home, this is a very good choice. At 18 pounds you should easily manage it in one trip.  And you can put it on a cart or a small hand truck to make it even easier to move it.

If it is available in your country I would recommend this package. It includes two good eyepieces and a 2X barlow which will take you to 180X without having to buy more eyepieces. The eyepieces from your Spaceprobe will work with this scope to take them into consideration too.
http://www.telescope...s?keyword=XT4.5 (http://www.telescope.com/Orion-SkyQuest-XT45-Classic-Dobsonian-Telescope-Kit/p/116307.uts?keyword=XT4.5)The 130 mm AWB (650 mm FL) will gather almost 3X the light of the Space probe. This would be a better choice if you will have to transport the telescope on public transportation. You can put this in a large backpack, along with eyepieces and other accessories, due to its collapsing design. You just need a stable place to use it.
https://www.astronom...&products_id=4 (https://www.astronomerswithoutborders.org/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=0&products_id=4%C2%A0)

Again the eyepieces from your SpaceProbe 3 should work with this telescope too. You will want to get a barlow for this telescope. Considering the 650 mm FL a 2X barlow would work but I would probably recommend a 3X barlow. I have an 80 mm/400 mm FL refractor and I use it with a 3X barlow for planets.  The included eyepieces combined with a 3X barlow would give you 196X.The larger aperture of 6" or 8" full size Dobsonian is great for observing but if it is too much work to move it and set it up, you won't use it.  If it takes two or three trips to set up that means 2-3 trips to put it away too.  Then that larger aperture is not helpful at all.

Remember, after you have made 2 trips to move the 8" telescope then you need to go back and get your eyepieces and other accessories. And then you need a chair of some sort.Considering your situation and your plan I think you have picked two very good options in the Skyquest 4.5 or the AWB.  Either will achieve 200X or higher with the right combination of eyepieces and barlows. And remember that the atmosphere is often the limiting factor for how much magnification you can use. Even with my 8" Dobsonian 200X is often the highest I can use.I don't know what costs are in your country and what is readily available but either of these scopes would serve you well.
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: Gregory Plummer on January 20, 2018, 11:40:26 PM
In 1976 I got my first telescope is Edmund 6 inch reflector and metal mount. I was 15 years old and take telescope out two trips to get up telescope and mount. I had 10 inch dobsonian and take two trips (telescope and base) to backyard is NO problem!
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: Brandon Leece on January 21, 2018, 12:59:22 AM
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After the discussion here:https://www.cloudyni...on-skyquest-45/ (https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/577131-awb-onesky-or-orion-skyquest-45/)

One person told me to get a bigger telescope than two of the scopes I listed in that thread, specifically an 8-inch dobsonian.
I found out that the person was a year younger than me, yet he can carry an 8-inch scope.

The reason I'm asking this is because I'm generally not that strong. That's why one of my biggest worries when buying a telescope is whether or not I could carry it. (One thing I know though, is I can carry my cpu tower with parts.)

So, can a 14 year old carry a 8 if not, 6-inch dob?
I think the better question is whether a 14 year old would want to have to lift and move a 6 or 8 inch full size Dobsonian. Unless you can move it on a cart, as I show in my photo, I would say the answer is no.Looking at the other discussion I think you make a very good case for why you would like to consider the skyquest 4.5 full size Dobsonian or a tabletop Dobsonian telescope like the AWB which has a 130 mm aperture.

This is especially true if you will have to carry it on a bus at times. I am a big man and I would not want to take a 6" or 8" full size dobsonian on a bus.

Remember, in addition to the telescope you still need to carry your accessories as well as some sort of chair or stool.

I copy in your first post from the other thread.

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I'm back after a long time of inactivity!

So, I'm really lost about which telescope to buy. (Dang it, INTP)
I started about a year ago, when I wanted to buy some of Celestron's Powerseeker models. After a bit of research, I found that the mounts were wobbly, and I didn't want that.
I then decided on getting an Orion Spaceprobe 3 because I didn't have budget to buy bigger scopes I wanted.
Then, I also found out that also had slightly wobbly mounts and the eyepieces were mediocre. I wanted a better, bigger scope but portable and inexpensive.
So I'm still deciding on two telescopes:
The AWB Onesky or the Skyquest 4.5.

I know that while the AWB Onesky has better light-gathering abilities, the Skyquest 4.5 has better optics and longer focal length.
So, which is the better telescope?Some things to note:
- I don't want to carry things heavier than my CPU.
- I'm short (4'10).
- Maximum budget is about $350.

The only negative to a table top designs is that they require a table, box or other place to put them to be at a comfortable working height. If you have that conveniently available then they can be VERY good upgrades from a 76 mm Spaceprobe.

The 4.5 inch/114 mm XT4.5 Skyquest (900 mm FL) will gather 2.25X the light of your 76 mm Spaceprobe. That is a significant upgrade.   If you are going to use it primarily at home, this is a very good choice. At 18 pounds you should easily manage it in one trip.  And you can put it on a cart or a small hand truck to make it even easier to move it.

If it is available in your country I would recommend this package. It includes two good eyepieces and a 2X barlow which will take you to 180X without having to buy more eyepieces. The eyepieces from your Spaceprobe will work with this scope to take them into consideration too.
http://www.telescope...s?keyword=XT4.5 (http://www.telescope.com/Orion-SkyQuest-XT45-Classic-Dobsonian-Telescope-Kit/p/116307.uts?keyword=XT4.5)The 130 mm AWB (650 mm FL) will gather almost 3X the light of the Space probe. This would be a better choice if you will have to transport the telescope on public transportation. You can put this in a large backpack, along with eyepieces and other accessories, due to its collapsing design. You just need a stable place to use it.
https://www.astronom...&amp;products_id=4 (https://www.astronomerswithoutborders.org/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&amp;cPath=0&amp;products_id=4%C2%A0)

Again the eyepieces from your SpaceProbe 3 should work with this telescope too. You will want to get a barlow for this telescope. Considering the 650 mm FL a 2X barlow would work but I would probably recommend a 3X barlow. I have an 80 mm/400 mm FL refractor and I use it with a 3X barlow for planets.  The included eyepieces combined with a 3X barlow would give you 196X.The larger aperture of 6" or 8" full size Dobsonian is great for observing but if it is too much work to move it and set it up, you won't use it.  If it takes two or three trips to set up that means 2-3 trips to put it away too.  Then that larger aperture is not helpful at all.

Remember, after you have made 2 trips to move the 8" telescope then you need to go back and get your eyepieces and other accessories. And then you need a chair of some sort.Considering your situation and your plan I think you have picked two very good options in the Skyquest 4.5 or the AWB.  Either will achieve 200X or higher with the right combination of eyepieces and barlows. And remember that the atmosphere is often the limiting factor for how much magnification you can use. Even with my 8" Dobsonian 200X is often the highest I can use.I don't know what costs are in your country and what is readily available but either of these scopes would serve you well. 
I actually changed my mind on getting the small scopes because if I would go to a dark site (my grandparent's home), I could stay there for several nights because it would be so far away (5 or 10 hrs, depending on which site) I actually have an idea how to pack a 6 or 8 inch dobsonian in a bus:

1. I would put the base in a box, then put it at the trunk of the bus (most buses in my country allow people to store bigger stuff there)
2. Then I would put the tube and eyepieces at a bag with padding. I would bring it inside with me.

One question: What bag can I put the tube of example... Orion XT8? And what padding should I put?

Note: I have family members who can help me bring my scope
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: Michael Timmons on January 23, 2018, 03:44:37 AM
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I'm 14, and while I don't own an 8" Dob myself I've borrowed one and moved it on my own with no problems.

You're 14 AND a vendor?!? How did that happen? What do you sell? STARKID2U
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: Joe Maillet on January 23, 2018, 11:16:55 AM
axl 2468 , Orion sells all kinds of padded bags specifically meant for their telescopes . One could probably buy a bag from a sporting goods store to carry bats/baseball and pad it out also. Where theres a will theres a way ! Under accessories at www.telescope.com (http://www.telescope.com)
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: Lauro Mason on January 29, 2018, 11:24:09 PM
Judging from the website, probably a family business. (If so, I'm so jealous right now)
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: ulatimhan on January 31, 2018, 12:00:24 AM
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axl 2468 , Orion sells all kinds of padded bags specifically meant for their telescopes . One could probably buy a bag from a sporting goods store to carry bats/baseball and pad it out also. Where theres a will theres a way ! Under accessories at www.telescope.com (http://www.telescope.com)

I didn't know Orion had padded bags. Thanks for pointing it out!
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: Kenneth Naim on January 31, 2018, 05:41:26 AM
Has anyone used one of Orion's padded cases before? Are they well-padded enough for transport in a bus or will I need to add more padding?
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: tioteyclasbeat on January 31, 2018, 06:55:18 AM
axl2468 , I have not used one, but theres 16 reviews of them on Orions site
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: John Robertson on January 31, 2018, 09:43:35 AM
Do you know any sleeping bags of perfect size for an orion xt8 at amazon? I checked at an online store in my country and all were too small.
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: kondcongrese on January 31, 2018, 12:22:29 PM
Well, the Orion XT8's optical tube length is 46.5" (per the Specifications on http://www.telescope...pe/p/102005.uts (http://www.telescope.com/Orion-SkyQuest-XT8-Classic-Dobsonian-Telescope/p/102005.uts) ). Say that the 8" scope has a tube Outside Diameter (O.D.) of 10" -- that would give it a circumference of 31.4".A sleeping bag (like this one on Amazon https://www.amazon.c...eping bag&amp;psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Trinidad-Warm-Weather-Sleeping-Bag/dp/B00363X1DQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1494689465&amp;sr=1-1-spons&amp;keywords=sleeping+bag&amp;psc=1) ) measures 33" x 75", so it would be big enough to cushion the tube.
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: David Varnavas on January 31, 2018, 01:45:12 PM
This is the carry case for an 8" Dobsonian OTA.
http://www.telescope...ts?ensembleId=5 (http://www.telescope.com/Accessories/Cases-Telescope-Covers/47x11x14-Orion-Padded-Telescope-Case/c/3/sc/43/p/15164.uts?ensembleId=5)

As to padding, you can add foam or a blanket or whatever you like if you feel the need for extra padding.

Other things that could serve as shipping or travel cases:

Hard shell golf bag - 51 x 14 x 13 inches external. Should fit a 45X10" tube of an 8" scope.
https://www.amazon.c... inch carry bag (https://www.amazon.com/Plano-Golf-Guard-Standard-Case/dp/B001D2AITW/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1494690512&amp;sr=1-5&amp;keywords=48+inch+carry+bag)You don't NEED a bag. you can just use carry handles and be careful with the tube. Perhaps put a piece of foam on the mirror end so you can stand it up and the foam will absorb the bounce and shock of the bus ride.
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: Robert Johnson on February 02, 2018, 07:50:58 PM
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After the discussion here:
https://www.cloudyni...on-skyquest-45/ (https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/577131-awb-onesky-or-orion-skyquest-45/)

One person told me to get a bigger telescope than two of the scopes I listed in that thread, specifically an 8-inch dobsonian.
I found out that the person was a year younger than me, yet he can carry an 8-inch scope.

The reason I'm asking this is because I'm generally not that strong. That's why one of my biggest worries when buying a telescope is whether or not I could carry it. (One thing I know though, is I can carry my cpu tower with parts.)

So, can a 14 year old carry a 8 if not, 6-inch dob?

I suspect you are referring to me.

I can carry my 8" easily.

I have an astronomy friend who is also 14 who has a Orion XT8i, and he can carry it.
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: agtofonist on February 02, 2018, 09:37:19 PM
Another question:

Is it possible to bring an 8-inch Dobsonian to a plane without being damaged by baggage<strike>throwers</strike> handlers? I really want to avoid the costs of shipping to mg country.
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: unetankem on February 08, 2018, 07:12:28 PM
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Another question:

Is it possible to bring an 8-inch Dobsonian to a plane without being damaged by baggage<strike>throwers</strike> handlers? I really want to avoid the costs of shipping to mg country.


My opinion? No. Airline baggage handling is not kind to baggage designed for it, and much less so to a telescope. Those handlers are on a tight schedule, and they are slinging stuff around with no concern about your stuff... none... nada... they do NOT know how to spell "Fragile"...

And it will not meet the requirements for carry on. Even if you could buy it a seat, and I don't think you can, the cost would likely be the same as shipping it. And even if you could, the bulk of the darn thing would be a problem, not only to the one bringing it, but to other passengers as well... and some passengers are... well... not very understanding...

I do wish you good luck in your endeavor, but I would either just get it shipped, or consider a more airline travel friendly scope package/size, if that is the route you absolutely MUST pursue.

Good luck young man!

CB
Title: Re: Can a 14-year-old carry a 6 or 8-inch dobsonian?
Post by: boysagiskest on February 09, 2018, 05:21:38 AM
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Another question:

Is it possible to bring an 8-inch Dobsonian to a plane without being damaged by baggage<strike>throwers</strike> handlers? I really want to avoid the costs of shipping to mg country.

Remember that the telescope is shipped to you via trucks and possibly planes, depending on where you are. Believe me, those folks don't give it any special treatment. So, yes, a telescope can be transported by airplane safely.

Just keep the original packaging.

Could it be damaged in transport? Of course.

If you want to provide extra protection put it in a hard shell case designed for golf clubs. This should work for an 8"
https://www.amazon.c...olf travel bags (https://www.amazon.com/SKB-2SKB-4814W-Deluxe-Golf-Travel/dp/B000A13PGA/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1494765499&amp;sr=8-1-fkmr0&amp;keywords=hard+shell+airline+golf+travel+bags)