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tessacubadc

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First light with Zhumell Z130
« on: December 29, 2017, 01:28:00 AM »
Received my Zhumell 130 last week (my first scope), but was only able to go out for the first time tonight because of all the bad weather here. Overall I was very impressed with this little scope and can't wait to get out and see more.

Started off with Saturn, which looked good (but small!) in my 10mm EP. Moved on to Albireo, and was easily able to break the double and distinguish the different colors. I spent some time just scanning around with the 25mm, and then moved over to Cassiopeia and was able to find M31 by scanning over to the "right" of the top part of the W. Pleasantly surprised at how nice it looked in the 25mm, obviously a very nice step up from my 15x70 binos. Hopefully with more practice at observing I will be able to see even more detail, though I don't expect to see the satellite galaxies.

Best part of the night was when I found M57 with the 25mm and switched to the 10mm. With averted vision it looked like a ghostly oval that was lighter in the middle than in the perimeter. I was just happy to find it! Then the clouds rolled in and my night was done.

Some practical observations:
Swapping out eyepieces was a little annoying. Probably due to my inexperience, I kept switching back and forth between the 10mm and 25mm.
Need to figure out a comfortable, consistent viewing position and telescope placement. Had no problem viewing objects at zenith through the eyepiece, but was difficult through the finder.
Dew!
Need a red flashlight to look at books, charts, etc.
StarWalk on the iPhone was very helpful to give ideas for where to look next.
Squinting at the eyepiece was uncomfortable. Ended up covering my right eye with my hand. Do people wear eyepatches or things of that nature to help with this?
Red dot finder was extremely useful, but probably will upgrade to a Telrad at some point.
Ordered the Celestron 8-24 zoom and Meade 3x Barlow today, which I think should keep me busy for quite a while.

Looking forward to many more nights with the Z130.



Jaimeylos Chiessa

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Re: First light with Zhumell Z130
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2017, 09:30:40 AM »
Practice with the RDF for a while. I like 'em with widefield scopes and I use Telrads all the time on my bigger Dobs.
The Rigel Starlight Mini is a great dimmable red led flashlight that's worth more than it costs, by far.
I like hoods. R-Sky makes a good one.
Sounds like you're on the way. Swapping ep's will become reflexive.

Jairo Zilinskas

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Re: First light with Zhumell Z130
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2017, 08:34:23 AM »
You need to try the double cluster in cassiopeia.

James Pederson

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Re: First light with Zhumell Z130
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2017, 05:39:04 PM »
Sounds like you did better than I the first time out. Get a barlow. Now. Don't wait. Even a cheap one off of Amazon. Saturn looks great with the 10mm EP and 2x barlow. You'll be able to see the Cassini division and faint color banding on the planet itself. I would also recommend a 32mm EP. Really the stock 2 EP's, a barlow and a 32mm EP are all you need with this scope. Unless you want to buy a zoom lens to avoid swapping EPs. But then you lose some magnification unless you add the barlow.

John Edwards

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Re: First light with Zhumell Z130
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2018, 10:27:16 AM »
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Sounds like you did better than I the first time out. Get a barlow. Now. Don't wait. Even a cheap one off of Amazon. Saturn looks great with the 10mm EP and 2x barlow. You'll be able to see the Cassini division and faint color banding on the planet itself. I would also recommend a 32mm EP. Really the stock 2 EP's, a barlow and a 32mm EP are all you need with this scope. Unless you want to buy a zoom lens to avoid swapping EPs. But then you lose some magnification unless you add the barlow.

Thanks, I ordered the Celestron 8-24 zoom and a Meade 3x barlow last night. Can't wait to get out and see Saturn and eventually Jupiter. Hopefully it'll also help with the Ring nebula? Or would that still just look like a ghostly oval.

Thinking about a wide-field EP but going to wait for now. I enjoyed just slowly scanning the sky, so a wide-field might be useful (?).

Gilbert Quintana

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Re: First light with Zhumell Z130
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2018, 02:06:02 AM »
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You need to try the double cluster in cassiopeia.

Definitely on my list. I'm realizing that I need to do some planning before going out -- it's not easy to fish around in a book for your next target while outside.

Michael Washington

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Re: First light with Zhumell Z130
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2018, 02:11:13 AM »
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Sounds like you did better than I the first time out. Get a barlow. Now. Don't wait. Even a cheap one off of Amazon. Saturn looks great with the 10mm EP and 2x barlow. You'll be able to see the Cassini division and faint color banding on the planet itself. I would also recommend a 32mm EP. Really the stock 2 EP's, a barlow and a 32mm EP are all you need with this scope. Unless you want to buy a zoom lens to avoid swapping EPs. But then you lose some magnification unless you add the barlow.

Thanks, I ordered the Celestron 8-24 zoom and a Meade 3x barlow last night. Can't wait to get out and see Saturn and eventually Jupiter. Hopefully it'll also help with the Ring nebula? Or would that still just look like a ghostly oval.

Thinking about a wide-field EP but going to wait for now. I enjoyed just slowly scanning the sky, so a wide-field might be useful (?).
The ring nebula is a bit disappointing IMO. At least my experience. It looks like a dust blob. I have to use averted vision to catch a glimpse of the faint "ring".  With that said it's cool just knowing the history of what I'm looking at.

I definitely recommend a 32mm EP. The Pleiades for example won't completely fit using the stock 25mm EP but will with a 32mm or larger EP. It also makes finding things easier from my experience. I think you will be good with the Celestron zoom, the barlow and a 32mm EP when you have the money.

Alejandro Taylor

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Re: First light with Zhumell Z130
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2018, 02:39:29 AM »
For the finder, try a laser. They're awesome as long as they are used responsibly.

Zac Purvis

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Re: First light with Zhumell Z130
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2018, 08:44:36 AM »
Something else I like about the Z130 -- it's so quick to get outside and set up. I got home from work late, brought it out on the deck and popped in the 10mm, found Saturn, and called my 5 year old outside for his first ever viewing before bedtime. Checked out the moon too. He was enthralled (at least, before he got scared of the "bear in the big dipper" coming out and wanted to go back inside).

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Re: First light with Zhumell Z130
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2018, 03:56:49 AM »
You are going to like the zoom barlow combo. I used mine tonight on Saturn and the Moon and it was amazing. Congrats, on the new scope, 130 is a nice size for a G&G

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Re: First light with Zhumell Z130
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2018, 05:38:17 AM »
At 650 mm FL you have a pretty wide view scope. Should be great for so many things. I have a 400 mm FL 80 mm refractor and love the wide views. Yours has a lot more aperture so you should be able to see a lot more than I.

I have the Celestron 8-24 I love. In my 400 mm ETX 80 I use it a lot with the 3X barlow.

If you are considering other eyepieces, you might find this article helpful.
http://www.chuckhawk...ece_designs.htmYou said you were thinking about a wide field eyepiece. You can get "wide field" at low power and high power within the limits of a 1.25" focuser.
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Assuming you are thinking low power wide field be aware that reflector telescopes have a minimum magnification threshold that you don't want to go below or you end up seeing the secondary mirror instead of your target. Check your manual for "minimum recommended Magnification". A similar Orion has a lowest recommended of 19X so I would not go below 20X.

650/20 = So a 32 mm is the longest eyepiece you would want to use. A 32 mm plossl would give you 20.3X and about 2.5 degrees FOV. That would probably be your best low power, widest field of view combination. This GSO would work. Mead, Celestron and others have similar.
http://agenaastro.co...l-eyepiece.html

Waka Belcher

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Re: First light with Zhumell Z130
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2018, 08:05:45 AM »
Some practical observations:
Swapping out eyepieces was a little annoying. Probably due to my inexperience, I kept switching back and forth between the 10mm and 25mm.
You'll find your way to do this easily...takes time to figure your set up.
Need to figure out a comfortable, consistent viewing position and telescope placement. Had no problem viewing objects at zenith through the eyepiece, but was difficult through the finder.
All I can say is "telescope yoga" LOL
Dew!
Comes with the territory...do you have a small portable hair dryer? Those work wonders!
Need a red flashlight to look at books, charts, etc.
Yeppa - a few coats of red nail polish will take care of this.

Squinting at the eyepiece was uncomfortable. Ended up covering my right eye with my hand. Do people wear eyepatches or things of that nature to help with this?
Yeppa - and they're fabulous - I picked mine up at Walgreens...Looking forward to many more nights with the Z130.