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Stay warm forever, clothing for the winter astronomer.
« on: December 24, 2017, 08:15:46 AM »
Hey guys, I recently got into astronomy and the one thing which kept cutting my sessions short was that the extreme cold we've been facing lately.  Well, intense for a California boy who lives in a desert.

Last week it hovered around 20 degrees all night with a few wind and in that type of weather it is hard to get anything finished.  However, I've discovered a solution.  My folks used to work back to the farm in Minnesota so among the first things they would do before going outside was to throw a pair of insulated coveralls.

Be the envy of your astronomy friends by appearing just like Dr. Venture, and as an additional benefit it is difficult to use the toilet!
Seriously though.  Duluth Trading Company and Dickies equally create these.  You can get them  without.  Links coming down.   Here and Here.
Obviously they don't need to be Dickies or even Duluths however they're well known clothing companies which don't skimp on producing quality outerwear.
I understand you guys back east are seeing unseasonably warm temperatures, but believe me it'll get chilly for you too, and you'll be more happy using a pair on if it will get chilly.  You can literally throw those things on in seconds and I have found these to be exceptionally nice and hot.
Another thing I have discovered, that's enormously better than cutting a fingertip off your gloves are these, here. 
These allow you to utilize your smartphones, which have become an increasingly necessary item with detachable scopes with amateurs, in addition to being a useful reference for individuals with additional experience.  Or a means of controlling your complete telescope as with all the Celestron Evo's.
Incidentally, if you are working a phone at a black sight, you are going to blow up your eyes looking at the display, but many apps today transform your phone into a nightime red light.  Here is one.

Use this thread to talk about the nice and the necessary things you need to do to be able to be observing in those winter months.  Remember never to operate below your telescope, or your electronics', temperature limit.
I would not be afraid to wear you into a celebrity party.   ****, make them freeze!   I have obtained <strong>scienceing</strong> to do!



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Re: Stay warm forever, clothing for the winter astronomer.
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2017, 10:32:41 PM »
Holy moly, I've had a pair of those Dickies insulated overalls for years for working on cars out in the elements, but for some reason never thought to put them to use during astronomy sessions.

Bonus points, you can put some long underwear underneath them, and sweat while you're out there!

Seriously, those overalls keep you nice and warm, and have a bit of padding to them, too. Plus lots of pockets.

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Re: Stay warm forever, clothing for the winter astronomer.
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2017, 02:04:19 AM »
Great idea; I've been freezing here in San Diego, lol. Seriously....

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Re: Stay warm forever, clothing for the winter astronomer.
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2017, 09:12:11 AM »
I like the chemical hand warmers for hands, feet and hats.
http://www.amazon.co...0HHR1KMAGBNBMGV

and my daughter got me a pair of these mittens that help a lot (although, I'm not sure of the brand)...
http://www.amazon.co...GCHZCYW9GSSZ56T

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Re: Stay warm forever, clothing for the winter astronomer.
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2017, 03:31:03 PM »
I agree, but I prefer the Carhart brand. What I like about Carharts is that one is a lifetime supply. They just don't wear out, EVER!. If you aren't into coveralls though, try the Filson brand of clothing. Their motto is, or at least used to be, "If they were any tougher, they'd rust." Both Filson and Carhart are a bit pricey, but they are both a lifetime investment.

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Re: Stay warm forever, clothing for the winter astronomer.
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2017, 10:18:14 PM »
I have a set of Carhart coveralls, too. My only problem with them is the insulation isn't quite enough by itself. Carhart clothing is made for working in, not sitting. They are almost bullet proof, though.

I use ski glove liners to keep my hands thawed. Surprisingly warm for how thin they are and they let me keep most of my dexterity.

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Re: Stay warm forever, clothing for the winter astronomer.
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2018, 02:20:26 AM »
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I agree, but I prefer the Carhart brand. What I like about Carharts is that one is a lifetime supply. They just don't wear out, EVER!. If you aren't into coveralls though, try the Filson brand of clothing. Their motto is, or at least used to be, "If they were any tougher, they'd rust." Both Filson and Carhart are a bit pricey, but they are both a lifetime investment.


Was actually just looking at the Carhart winter stuff. Bit pricey, but that's what was initially suggested to me I had just forgotten. You'll be paying 120 or less, but it will keep you comfy albeit less stylish than a coat and pants.

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Re: Stay warm forever, clothing for the winter astronomer.
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2018, 03:19:16 PM »
Duluth Trading sells some if the best work clothes ever made.
Significantly higher grade then Dickies, and worth every penny.

If you already have some outdoor working winter wear, then absolutely use it.
But as mentioned, this stuff is for moving in outdoors in winter.
Standing or sitting at a scope may likely require more layering.

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Re: Stay warm forever, clothing for the winter astronomer.
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2018, 03:18:34 AM »
I've been using insulated coveralls for decades and have been singing their praises for just as long.

But check this out:https://www.milwauke...com/heated-gear First saw them in a Youtube ad a few days ago and was INSTANTLY hooked! I need this!

Also, don't forget your feet! I can warmly (pun intended) recommend these:http://www.amazon.co...s/dp/B00CME1UVKClear skies!
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Re: Stay warm forever, clothing for the winter astronomer.
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2018, 02:06:43 PM »
Sadly they do not come in a size that will fit a freak like me.  Other than that a great idea!

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Re: Stay warm forever, clothing for the winter astronomer.
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2018, 02:07:05 AM »
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Sadly they do not come in a size that will fit a freak like me.  Other than that a great idea!

What do you mean? The coveralls? I've seen them in HUGE sizes and they also sell them for kids. There should be one to fit anyone.Clear skies!
Thomas, Denmark

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Re: Stay warm forever, clothing for the winter astronomer.
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2018, 05:35:57 AM »
Which coveralls are warmest?

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Re: Stay warm forever, clothing for the winter astronomer.
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2018, 09:29:05 AM »
O.K.! Lets stop fooling around. I know about cold. I lived in the bush of Alaska for 13 years and in Siberia for 7. We seem to start off discussions with a general theme of "cold", but that "cold" is never defined. I've been out in cold, REAL COLD, -60 F cold. None of us are going to observe in those conditions, so lets get reasonable. Let's put a limit on the cold, say 0 to -10 F. If it's any colder than that you get what you deserve. In the 0 to -10 range wear some itchy scratchy wool one piece long Johns, silk socks under thick real wool socks and bunny boots. If you don't know what bunny boots are, look them up. You can find them at Army Navy Surplus stores. There are the felt kind, the originals called Micky Mouse boots and sometimes called bunny boots, and the rubber kind with the air valve on them to equalize pressure in them when flying. The rubber kind are more practical because when you come indoors you must remove the felt kind BEFORE you go inside or the snow on them will melt on them, soak into the felt and until you completely dry them out they are useless outdoors. The same is true of your parka, so leave it outside too and shake ALL of the snow off of you before going indoors. That's why the military went to the rubber ones that are air insulated, two layers of rubber with air in between. Remember the air valve and equalization and such? Now for your body, It is layers. Layers of real wool are best. several thin layers are better than a couple of thick layers. Last and most important is your head. 70% of your body heat that is lost is lost through your head. I prefer a parka (not a coat, a parka) with a hood and a wool watch cap under the hood. Remember the Alaska axioms, if your feet get cold, put on your hat. One other thing never NEVER get warm when you are out in very cold weather. Stay cool, not warm. When you are warm you perspire and that puts water into your insulation and then you have NO insulation,

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Re: Stay warm forever, clothing for the winter astronomer.
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2018, 11:11:40 AM »
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O.K.! Lets stop fooling around. I know about cold. I lived in the bush of Alaska for 13 years and in Siberia for 7. We seem to start off discussions with a general theme of "cold", but that "cold" is never defined. I've been out in cold, REAL COLD, -60 F cold. None of us are going to observe in those conditions, so lets get reasonable. Let's put a limit on the cold, say 0 to -10 F. If it's any colder than that you get what you deserve. In the 0 to -10 range wear some itchy scratchy wool one piece long Johns, silk socks under thick real wool socks and bunny boots. If you don't know what bunny boots are, look them up. You can find them at Army Navy Surplus stores. There are the felt kind, the originals called Micky Mouse boots and sometimes called bunny boots, and the rubber kind with the air valve on them to equalize pressure in them when flying. The rubber kind are more practical because when you come indoors you must remove the felt kind BEFORE you go inside or the snow on them will melt on them, soak into the felt and until you completely dry them out they are useless outdoors. The same is true of your parka, so leave it outside too and shake ALL of the snow off of you before going indoors. That's why the military went to the rubber ones that are air insulated, two layers of rubber with air in between. Remember the air valve and equalization and such? Now for your body, It is layers. Layers of real wool are best. several thin layers are better than a couple of thick layers. Last and most important is your head. 70% of your body heat that is lost is lost through your head. I prefer a parka (not a coat, a parka) with a hood and a wool watch cap under the hood. Remember the Alaska axioms, if your feet get cold, put on your hat. One other thing never NEVER get warm when you are out in very cold weather. Stay cool, not warm. When you are warm you perspire and that puts water into your insulation and then you have NO insulation,

As a long time Bowhunter. I can say that this is a must. Another important fact, Never wear cotton as your first layer, It absorbs &amp; holds moister next to your skin.

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Re: Stay warm forever, clothing for the winter astronomer.
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2018, 11:31:40 PM »
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Sadly they do not come in a size that will fit a freak like me.  Other than that a great idea!

What do you mean? The coveralls? I've seen them in HUGE sizes and they also sell them for kids. There should be one to fit anyone.Clear skies!
Thomas, Denmark

I checked the site. No luck. I am 1.98 meters tall and 172 kg. I used to play Rugby Union and have the thighs, arms, chest, and sadly now the now beer belly due to lack of exercise to keep it off to prove it. I have yet to find a jumper or coverall that will fit me comfortably. Heck I have trouble finding trousers that fit me comfortably even at the freakishly tall and fat shops.