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Gregory Plummer

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Which Telescope to get for Christmas
« on: January 03, 2018, 10:53:18 AM »
Hello All!!

I am new to these forums and I am looking to get advice..

My background - Ive had beginner telescopes in the past and did casual observing of the moon and planets. Ive also been able to observe bright messier objects such as M42, M45 and a handful of clusters. I am wanting to get more into astronomy and see more deepsky objects while still getting excellent views of the planets and moon.

My wife – My wife loves photography. Pure and simple.

The idea of getting a new scope began when my wife and I were talking about things we enjoy. I had the idea of why not see if we can bring the two things we enjoy together into hobby we can BOTH fall in love with. This would allow us to share a common hobby and hopefully good quality time together.

I unfortunately do have a budget and cannot go over $1500. (That's not to say that at some point down the road if this is something we enjoy together, we wont be investing more money.)

I know there are so many things that go into astrophotography and also visual observing and I am wanting to get something that can do both. They don't have to be great at either, but I do want them good enough.

My wife loves working with software to enhance images so stacking short exposure images to create a finished picture is something she would probably enjoy.

I have done some research on astrophotography and it gets confusing on what I am looking for in a scope. I have (I think) narrowed down the telescopes I am interested in and want some advice on which one would deliver what I am looking to accomplish. If anyone has other suggestions I am very open to those as well.

Remember I have a $1500 budget BUT if I can justify it to my wifey.... just MAYBE... LOL! So the $1500 budget is where I would like to stay.

The Telescopes
http://www.highpoint...pe-bundle-11069

http://www.highpoint...telescope-32062

http://www.telescope...395/p/24729.uts

http://www.highpoint...telescope-12079

Your help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Chris M



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Re: Which Telescope to get for Christmas
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2018, 04:21:06 PM »
Some will differ but for your stated needs I would go with the AVX mount but step up to the 8 inch SCT. That would work well for visual and as a pretty decent entry level platform for AP; then as she develops expertise you could add a decent APO refractor for use on the same mount for more advanced AP. Nothing especially wrong with the two Newtonians except that for visual use a Newt on an EQ mount puts the eyepiece in some awkward spots. As for the Nexstar 8 it is a dandy scope and very popular but suited only for quick lunar and planetary photography because it is on an alt-az mount.

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Re: Which Telescope to get for Christmas
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2018, 11:27:41 PM »
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Some will differ but for your stated needs I would go with the AVX mount...

and get a skywatchers 80mmED for photography

for astro photos smaller focal lengths are easier to start with.

for visual get a dob, a used 8in should be cheap enough.

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Re: Which Telescope to get for Christmas
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2018, 02:44:51 AM »
Thank you both for your advice. I like the idea of having the SCT for visual and also the mount that comes with the Celestron AVX 8"

The reason being is that like was mentioned we can at some point go and purchase a refractor and use the mount for that as well.

What accessories would be recommended to go with this purchase?

Thanks,

Tim Jauregui

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Re: Which Telescope to get for Christmas
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2018, 03:12:48 AM »
I imagine that scope comes with a 25mm eyepiece. So get a second one in the 10-15mm range Also a 12v power pack (the jump start batteries work fine for this) and a flexible dew shield. Those would be good starter accessories. One more good buy, if there is one near you, is a membership in a local astronomy club -- a great wealth of information, experience and expertise.

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Re: Which Telescope to get for Christmas
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2018, 06:13:57 AM »
Will this work for a power tank?

Celestron 12V 7 AH Power Tank Portable Power Supply - 18774

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Re: Which Telescope to get for Christmas
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2018, 12:33:57 PM »
I will let others advise you on the scope and mount. What I can say from my readings is that visual astronomy is very much focused around the scope and the aperture. AP is very much focused around the mount.How dark are your skies? Mine are full of light pollution. The Milky way is a rumor and I have large sections of sky with no stars at all.I have seen that I can seea LOT more with a given scope at a darker site. So how are your skies?If would seem the VX combination would be good for you and within your budget.
http://www.celestron...ized-telescopesI am not sure what kind of camera your wife is considering for AP but there is a branch of AP that is built around webcams that might also be of interest.

Introductory astrophotography using a Webcam for planetary imaging -https://www.youtube....h?v=CeHj6qT5JSEhttps://www.youtube....vid=CeHj6qT5JSEhttp://www.universet...g-on-the-cheap/

Usinga CCD camera with ETX 70 – from 2009
https://www.youtube....h?v=22ZaZU5j70E
Webcam with ETX 70https://www.youtube....EE9857D9F539312

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Re: Which Telescope to get for Christmas
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2018, 12:39:39 AM »
They are all competent scopes. I am partial to celestron products and aperture is always nice. If you are markedly apprehensive about a german equatorial mount due to setting up(not that tough IMHO for visual in the northern hemisphere) then get the nextar.

Have fun with the scope hunt!

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Re: Which Telescope to get for Christmas
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2018, 04:59:10 AM »
<sub>There is a forum here specifically for Astrophotography</sub>
<sub>http://www.cloudynig...ediate-imaging/</sub>

<sub>You might want to do some reading there or ask some questions there. </sub>

<sub>The Celestron Nexstar, again just from what I have read, would be OK for short exposures and for web cam work but would probably not be good enough for long exposure photography. For that you want an EQ mount or the Vx mount.</sub><sub>Another way to get into low cost AP - fun stuff, not serious stuff</sub>
<sub>https://www.youtube....h?v=fz63FnLnswE</sub>

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Re: Which Telescope to get for Christmas
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2018, 02:37:24 AM »
Thanks Ed.

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Re: Which Telescope to get for Christmas
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2018, 07:28:10 AM »
Rotating an 8" f/5 Newtonian mounted on an equatorial for more comfortable eye placement would be rather challenging; a 6" f/5 less so...

http://www.highpoint...CFYkdgQodAzcIog

They now ship equipped with 2" focussers, and for improved imaging capability.

The 6" f/5 can be used for both visual and imaging. In addition, this equatorial would make for a decent, introductory imaging platform, and for over $200 less than the Celestron AVX...

http://www.bhphotovi...arch=yes&amp;sts=ps

The Exos-2GT is equipped with ball or roller bearings for both axes, right ascension and declination. The AVX uses only a simple flat washer as the bearing for its declination axis, and with users reporting stiction and freezing issues as a result. Both mounts are of the EQ5-class of Synta's equatorials.

These are the next steps up from the aforementioned: a deluxe EQ5 and an EQ6...

http://www.telescope.../34/p/24336.uts
https://www.astronom...unt_p20314.aspx

...and the minimum for serious, advanced astrophotography.

I'd get either the Sirius or the EQ6 and the 6" f/5 to start out with myself. The EQ6 would be all the equatorial one would need for decades to come. In future, an 80mm f/6 apochromat would be ideal for advancing further into imaging, especially for deep-sky. Stars would be pinpoints within the final image, and without Newtonian spider-vane flares. The 6" f/5 would be good for imaging the Moon and the planets; as well as deep-sky, but with said flares on brighter objects...

https://jackedwardle...2014/05/m42.jpg

The 6" f/5 also makes for a great all-around visual instrument, for observing within the solar system and without into deep space. It would be a simulation, an approximation, of a 120mm f/6 apochromatic refractor, at best.

Reviews of the 6" f/5...

http://www.chuckhawk...T150_scopes.htm
http://www.cloudynig...i-xlt-150-r1623

...and for the price, it's unbeatable.

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Re: Which Telescope to get for Christmas
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2018, 10:38:15 AM »
That certainly is a lot to take it! I will be doing some reading this evening!

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Re: Which Telescope to get for Christmas
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2018, 10:26:45 PM »
What to buy?
Basically nothing named after a Comet or Planet, Sold at Walmart or any other Dept store.
Buy a scope that guaranteed Diffraction limited optics, and who's MAX optical power is NOT over 50 power per 25mm of
Aperture.

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Re: Which Telescope to get for Christmas
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2018, 03:54:33 AM »
Where can I get the combo for $1299?

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Re: Which Telescope to get for Christmas
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2018, 07:12:10 AM »
I apologize. I thought it was still on sale. It is $1,599 now.