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Re: Why are binoculars so important if you already have a telescope?
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2018, 09:38:47 AM »
When I do visual astronomy, in the course of an observing session I use each of the following tools:

1. Recently upgraded (with new lenses) Mark I eyeballs.
2. 20 x 50 binocular mounted on a tripod.
3. Orion ST80 (3.15", 400 mm) refractor on a Twilight 1 Alt/Az mount/tripod.
4. Orion 12" f/4.9 Dob.

FWIW - The 20 x 50 binocular I have works great. I bought them from an online (apparently Chinese) distribution company that I saw in the CN Vendor forum - GearBest.com
Including shipping they cost me $24.13 USD.

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Re: Why are binoculars so important if you already have a telescope?
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2018, 12:04:25 PM »
Introduction to Binoculars for Star Gazing
Seeing targets in Taurushttps://www.youtube....h?v=6fHKG9tkPQU

Coco Moten

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Re: Why are binoculars so important if you already have a telescope?
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2018, 07:33:24 PM »
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Thanks for the awesome responses!

I'm convinced.

Any recommendations for good brands?

The binocular forum has a bunch of good reviews. Maybe an 8x42, 10x50, or 7x50 model would be good for a first pair depending on how much light pollution you have. If more light pollution, then a10x50, if not very much an 8x42 or 7x50 are very good.

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Re: Why are binoculars so important if you already have a telescope?
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2018, 10:37:30 PM »
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Thanks for the awesome responses!

I'm convinced.

Any recommendations for good brands?

What is your budget? 10's? Hundreds? Thousands? Binoculars in all price ranges.

There are very expensive binoculars but, if your budget is small binoculars can be your low cost entry into astronomy. My first pair cost $20 from Harbor Freight, Gordon 10X50s, which I still use today.Later I added Celestron 15X70s, $66. If you want to look at some better binoculars Oberwerk have an excellent reputation for quality and service in the $100 to $300 range

Binocular resources:

Binocular Sky – Binocular astronomyhttp://binocularsky.com/

Tonight’s Sky
www.tonightssky.com

How to hold binocularshttp://binocularsky.com/binoc_hold.php

Binocular Universe Newsletterhttp://www.cloudynig...cular-universe/

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Re: Why are binoculars so important if you already have a telescope?
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2018, 12:40:35 PM »
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Any recommendations for good brands?


I have two -- Orion UltraView 8x42 and Celestron SkyMaster 15x70.

I've had the 8x42 for almost 20 years, use it all the time, take it everywhere, and love it. 8° field of view, great eye relief (essential if you wear glasses), and bright images. And most important, it's light and well-balanced, so you can hold it steady for a long time, whether looking at stars, birds, or football games.

I've had the 15x70 for about a year. I like the views well enough, but I really haven't warmed up to it as I'd hoped I would. It really requires mounting for anything beyond a quick glance. I do have a monopod for it, but I still find myself leaving it behind, opting for either quick sessions with the 8x42 or long sessions with the telescope (a C8 -- always accompanied by the 8x42!).

Note that if you do opt for something larger than 10x50, you should make sure to get a heavy-duty, metal tripod adapter. The light plastic one that comes with the SkyMaster 15x70 is woefully inadequate -- wobbles like crazy when mounted on a tripod or monopod (that was the first thing I changed on mine).

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Re: Why are binoculars so important if you already have a telescope?
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2018, 03:37:21 PM »
I have small, easy to hold binos and big ones that require tripod mounting. Scanning for a comet is much easier with binos and you can carry a pair with you in your vehicle at all times. I did a shoot-out with my 25X100 binos and my 6" F5 Newtonian. No contest when used at similar magnification (30X on the telescope). Star clusters showed more stars and there was greater contrast. Scanning up and down the Milky Way with large binos is an experience not to be missed. I have spent entire nights observing with just binoculars. Even handy for meteor showers to catch glowing trains after a meteor passage. If binos don't float your boat, get a quality finder scope for those low power views.

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Re: Why are binoculars so important if you already have a telescope?
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2018, 02:03:54 AM »
I think the Celestron Skymaster's 8 x 56 fully multi coated are amazing. Everyone who uses them loves them as well. Very sharp, light weight. Great all purpose binos. Read reviews on them online.

About $228 Canadian though.

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Re: Why are binoculars so important if you already have a telescope?
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2018, 01:08:20 AM »
Tonight I got up from my chair at 11 pm, time to head for bed. Well, quick detour to the front door to look at the sky. Clear.

Quick walk to the garage, grab the 10X50s. Get a good look at the Pleiades, the red eye of the constellation of Taurus the bull and the star cluster that is his head. Then a quick sweep up to find the Andromeda Galaxy. Fast scan to the Big dipper, spot Vega and Epsilon Lyrae, the double double, and take a look at some nice doubles in Cassiopeia.

OK, got my fix for the night - total time, 10 minutes. Kissed the wife good night and came here to share.

I love binocular astronomy.

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Re: Why are binoculars so important if you already have a telescope?
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2018, 05:38:57 AM »
10X50 binocular help me a lot in light pollution. lack of stars and I use my binocular to see tiny deep sky objects as fuzzy blobs. I remember in Chicago backyard that I can see M36, M37 and M38 as tiny fuzzy blob in my binocular then I use my telescope to find them and nice open clusters! Also nice in dark sky to see North American Nebula that is too big to fit in my telescope in low power. Binocular is about 5 to 7 degree of view and see lot more stars than naked eye!

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Re: Why are binoculars so important if you already have a telescope?
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2018, 01:15:04 AM »
Thanks so much for everyone's help here!

I picked up the Celestron 15X70's that aeajr has (I have a good tripod, so I figured I would use this as my defacto telescope until theZhumell Z8 Deluxe Dobsonian is back in stock.

I understand these are unwieldy (as be aeajr's post) so I am also going to pick up a smaller more portable pair. Maybe10X50s?

Thanks so much again!

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Re: Why are binoculars so important if you already have a telescope?
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2018, 04:34:22 AM »
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Thanks so much for everyone's help here!

I picked up the Celestron 15X70's that aeajr has (I have a good tripod, so I figured I would use this as my defacto telescope until theZhumell Z8 Deluxe Dobsonian is back in stock.

I understand these are unwieldy (as be aeajr's post) so I am also going to pick up a smaller more portable pair. Maybe10X50s?

Thanks so much again!


Using the 15x70s on a tripod as your defacto telescope is a great idea, especially if you have access to dark skies.  That's what I did when I first got back into the hobby. One summer night using nothing but those and I was already more than halfway to my Binocular Messier certificate.

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Re: Why are binoculars so important if you already have a telescope?
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2018, 05:57:55 AM »
As you can see from all the responses you got, they complement a telescope very well. In fact, my first view through a pair when I was a kid got me hooked! I pointed them up to Cygnus and I was blown away by the sheer amount of stars I could see!

Since you already have a fairly high powered pair with 15x, I would get a fairly lightweight pair with magnification in the 7-8x range and 42-50mm objective. My favorite type are roof prism bino's, they seem easier to hand hold. Later at night or later this month, there are a few excellent objects that are great in a bino. The Hyades cluster, the belt of Orion and of course the Pleiades.

Have fun:)

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Re: Why are binoculars so important if you already have a telescope?
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2018, 11:21:49 PM »
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Thanks so much for everyone's help here!

I picked up the Celestron 15X70's that aeajr has (I have a good tripod, so I figured I would use this as my defacto telescope until theZhumell Z8 Deluxe Dobsonian is back in stock.

I understand these are unwieldy (as be aeajr's post) so I am also going to pick up a smaller more portable pair. Maybe10X50s?

Thanks so much again!


It's too bad that there aren't many brick-and-morter stores with good binocular selections anymore. It's really nice to handle them and feel the weight and balance before buying. It's like that wand scene in Harry Potter: the binoculars choose the viewer!

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Re: Why are binoculars so important if you already have a telescope?
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2018, 04:25:25 AM »
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Thanks so much for everyone's help here!

I picked up the Celestron 15X70's that aeajr has (I have a good tripod, so I figured I would use this as my defacto telescope until theZhumell Z8 Deluxe Dobsonian is back in stock.

I understand these are unwieldy (as be aeajr's post) so I am also going to pick up a smaller more portable pair. Maybe10X50s?

Thanks so much again!


It's too bad that there aren't many brick-and-morter stores with good binocular selections anymore. It's really nice to handle them and feel the weight and balance before buying. It's like that wand scene in Harry Potter: the binoculars choose the viewer!
Check out most of the big box sporting goods stores, they have a good selection.

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Re: Why are binoculars so important if you already have a telescope?
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2018, 01:17:30 PM »
You might consider something smaller for your 2nd pair. The field of view will be significantly larger with something like 7x50 or 8x56. Also, they can be handheldand not require a tripod. This can help when you really want to "grab and go" in a hurry.

I have 15x70s and 8x56s. The 8x56s get used more because I can hold them steady. The 15x70s require a tripod ora lot of support with knees and maybe a building to lean against. Otherwise, the view jumps around too much. It can really be amazing how different little movements are when amplified 15 times!

Welcome to another world of astronomy! I've found that no matter what level you view at, there are things of great interest. Naked eye, small binos, large binos, small telescope, medium telescope...you get the idea. It works with everything...it is just that there are different targets that are best with different instruments.