Author Topic: ES 11.82 First Light - VERY PLEASED!  (Read 417 times)

Randal Samuels

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ES 11.82 First Light - VERY PLEASED!
« on: December 29, 2017, 01:18:36 AM »
Well, my first experience with a 82 degree eyepiece - Explore Scientific 11mm / 82 degree AFOV. First off - I'm a VISUAL deep sky observer / Celestron Nexstar SE8. Wanted to get something with a wider field of view - yet with something with 175-225X (my scope). So after looking over the field (and reading quite few "amateur observer reviews - I selected the Explore Scientific 11MM / 82 Degree.The moon was out tonight - but I have a lot of trees to the east - so the moon while up was blocked from my direct view. Of course - the sky quite light polluted from the moonlight and not anywhere's near a great night for deep space stuff...but tried it out on the DOUBLE CLUSTER, M13 and M11.And while this was just a FIRST NIGHT / NOT IDEAL DEEP SPACE CONDITIONS / ETC. / and a QUICK ONE HOUR TEST ONLY - I must say "I'm impressed" and I believe I have just added a "keeper" to my eyepiece arsenal.The eyepiece not only had the "as advertised" super wide field (compared it to a 2X barlowed 20mm / 60 degree Erfle I have) --- much wider FOV than that --- AND it also yielded very good resolution and contrast. The stars were pin-point out to 90-95% of the field. The sky - quite dark (especially in light of the moonlight). And just as important as all of this - if not even moreso to me - the eyepiece is very user friendly and very comfortable - unlike many other WF's in the 8-12mm FL range. Very friendly eye placement for a full "port-hole" view. No black-outs when I moved this way or that a bit like so many other eyepieces. Very easy and comfortable to use. VERY PLEASED. ES did (IMO) a great job with this one.Finally got a higher power medium focal length WF that I like - and I might add for UNDER $150 (shipped from HighPoint Scientific).More later when the NEW MOON comes and I get out to my dark observing location with this little gem.M11Mike (Ballston Lake, NY)



tecretalhei

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Re: ES 11.82 First Light - VERY PLEASED!
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2018, 02:54:53 AM »
i found the ES 82s very nice for the money
but
going Delos i find the ES a bit lacking
not so much in detail more
-delos darker backround
-stars more alive
-more color saturation in the stars
-easier to see the whole FOV
-20mm ER

Christian Shim

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Re: ES 11.82 First Light - VERY PLEASED!
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2018, 08:43:43 AM »
Mike, you must be as insensitive to eye relief issues as I am. I always found the ES82's comfortable too.

Anthony Cejudo

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Re: ES 11.82 First Light - VERY PLEASED!
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2018, 06:21:17 AM »
Tank - DELOS more than 2X the money and I'd bet far from 2X as good. That's kinda like comparing a C8 to a C11--- ie - one might expect a bit better light grasp out of the 11 (for double the $$$'s) and my guess is the DELOS performance differential wouldn't match that the of C8/C11.Tank - not knocking T/V EP's- I have two I like, one I love. But you pay dearly for them. If your pockets aren't that deep --- ES offer SUPER VALUE / "GREAT MPG" (performance per dollar). Much (IMHO) of what you pay for with TV has to do with the NAME. Granted, they hold their value, etc. But like many - I'm more concerned with "performance per $$$" - than with "collector" or resale value --- I'm not buying EP's to resell - I'm buying eyepieces to USE.M11Mike

James Merrill

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Re: ES 11.82 First Light - VERY PLEASED!
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2018, 03:59:44 AM »
Hello M11Mike!  I have the ES 11mm as well and I too like the eyepiece.  I have used it in my 12 inch f/5 dob, 120ED Pro f7.5 refractor and 4 inch f/10 achromatic refractor and have found it works well in all three scopes.  I don't wear my glasses when viewing through the eyepiece so I haven't had any real issues with eye relief.  Never have tried a TV eyepiece and I don't doubt they are a notch or two above the ES eyepieces.  But for the price they sure seem to be a darn good eyepiece IMO.  I also now have the ES 8.8 and the 24mm68 degree one as well.

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Re: ES 11.82 First Light - VERY PLEASED!
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2018, 09:53:40 AM »
Nice to hear the the ES 11mm is nice. I have the 8.8mm and the 14mm and will get the 11mm to round things out. I also have the 24mm 68* which is a very nice EP too.

Thanks for the write-up.

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Re: ES 11.82 First Light - VERY PLEASED!
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2018, 01:08:09 AM »
Congratulations on the new eyepiece. If your previous wide field eyepiece was an Erfle, you have taken a great leap forward in optical design technology! That's pretty much what I did way back when the original Nagler type 1s were introduced and I never looked back, even though I still have my old late '70s, 20mm Meade Research Grade Erfle. The 82 degree type was a huge improvement especially in a faster scope. I have the Meade Series 5000 30mm which is the same design, and is an excellent eyepiece despite the fact you need steel toes observing shoes to keep from being permanently crippled if you drop it on your foot.

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Re: ES 11.82 First Light - VERY PLEASED!
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2018, 06:18:05 AM »
How does the ES 4.7mm,8.8mm,6.7mm and the 11mm hold up when used with a 2.5x Powermate or barlow?

Thanks,

De Lorme

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Re: ES 11.82 First Light - VERY PLEASED!
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2018, 04:33:12 PM »
I just got the ES82 4.7mm, and while no eyepiece expert (despite many years of visual experience I always used the same eyepieces) I absolutely love it. However I expect any modern eyepiece would have got me this excited!

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Re: ES 11.82 First Light - VERY PLEASED!
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2018, 04:14:46 AM »
Gary - you and I must be on the same stellar wavelength as I have a ES 24/68 being shipped today (bought Saturday right here on CN's) and a 8.8/82 (ordered last night from ES via the "BIG A") - shipped FREE THIS morning - A PRIME. So - by Wednesday my eyepiece arsenal will include (3) ES eyepieces.Again - don't get me wrong fellas - TV eyepieces may be the best eyepieces there are (???) - and for those where $$$ is NOT an issue - why not have them. But for me - operating on a somewhat limited astro budget -I can get TWICE as many ES modern & sophisticated WA designs for the same $$$ and at what (?) --- 90% the performance level (?) and that to me exudes with the words - "GREAT VALUE" / and a higher PERFORMANCE PER DOLLAR ratio".Gary - I know the "reputation" of the ES 24/68 (just read the CN's reviews when compared to TV Pan 24) and have been wanting one - but ALL telescope/eyepiece retailers have been sold out all summer - finally snagged a really nice used specimen on CN's Saturday. I already have a Pan 24 so now I will be able to compare myself - side by side. Paid $300+ for the TV / $105 for the ES. And if the 8.8 (ordered last night) is anything at all like its 11mm brother - it will make a welcome high power addition to my eyepiece arsenal.Clear skies - M11Mike (Ballston Lake, NY)

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Re: ES 11.82 First Light - VERY PLEASED!
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2018, 05:56:24 AM »
Agree with you M11Mike. I have many of the ES 82deg series eye pieces (30, 18, 11, 8,8, 6,7 and 4.7). They are my go to eye pieces for general visual observing with my ES ED127 scope. They have delivered nice views of the milky way, the moon, Jupiter and Saturn. I am just starting on DSOs and the ES 82deg eye pieces have not let me down there either. Agree they are very good value for what they deliver in terms of crisp, clear wide views. To my eyes they deliver no color or tone - albireo looks fab with its blue and yellow stars. The eye relief is good for me (I wear contacts when observing) and I have not seen any blackouts. I haven't barlowed them yet given the range of mag I get with them but do want to see what the 11mm looks like with 3x barlow (258x) if we ever get any good skies here in NC. Happy viewing all!

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Re: ES 11.82 First Light - VERY PLEASED!
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2018, 03:50:43 AM »
The ES 11 does barlow nicely. I've done it with a GSO 2" barlow and the ES 1.25" focal extender
both with very good results. A regular barlow such as the GSO gives a bit more eye relief which
is a nice to have.

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Re: ES 11.82 First Light - VERY PLEASED!
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2018, 07:25:09 AM »
I love my ES11mm. I also have a Baader Morpheus 14 and while it is indeed great the ES82 11mm is a little easier than the big lens Morpheus for eye placement.

Even though the eye relief is better for the Morpheus I find that the ES82 11mm is actually just as or more comfortable with glasses-once again I think its the big lens and getting used to it. I also have the ES 82 30mm and its my favorite eyepiece

Oddly I find that the ES82 11mm excels on getting detail on globulars. I see you like M11 as well and the ES82 11mm is awesome on that object

Jon

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Re: ES 11.82 First Light - VERY PLEASED!
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2018, 10:55:37 PM »
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You are celebrating your new 11 mm 82 degree eyepiece.. There's always an eyepiece or scope that's better in some way or another, more eye relief, less of this, more of that.

But at some point one has to just forget all that and just recognize that an eyepiece is a good eyepiece and enjoy the views it provides.. I think the ES 11 mm 82 degree is a good eyepiece that deserves a celebration without the inevitable comparisons.

You got a good one..

Jon

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Re: ES 11.82 First Light - VERY PLEASED!
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2018, 11:02:26 AM »
SF74Jon - that's one of the reasons I bought it - for higher power views of things like M11....I want to get ALL of it "in the picture" and some of these deep space "faint fuzzies" are quite large.It was good on the Double Cluster, M11 and M13 last night - three of my favs.Very pleased with it.Mike