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Jerry Dunn

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Re: Daylight saving ends!
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2018, 08:39:37 AM »
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Whoopeeee, now I can get out there an hour earlier! Sunset here in NC is 5:30 now and I can get in a few hours of observing on good nights:)

Yep. "End of Daylight Saving Time" is right up there among my favorite holidays of the year.

Drew Bullets

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Re: Daylight saving ends!
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2018, 09:15:29 AM »
My retail business is open on Sundays and I always work them. Historically the moods of the customers and my employees are substantially better when DST ends than when it starts. Today, case in point, was busy, upbeat, and fun since we all got the extra hour to sleep. Never fails but at least one of my employees is always late in the Spring due to losing that hour.

My biggest beef isn’t the change, but how they’ve extended DST. When I was a kid it didn’t start as early as it does now and end this late. If I could I’d shave two weeks off at the beginning and the end.

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Re: Daylight saving ends!
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2018, 10:36:08 PM »
I absolutely loathe DST in the middle of Summer when it doesn't get fully dark until 11:00 pm. Not everyone hates the night. Spring and Fall I can take it or leave it, aside from having to get up in the dark. In the Winter, DST just plain doesn't work on account of kids having to catch school buses etc, in darkness. So in my opinion, forget DST and leave changing clocks alone. DST saves little if any energy anymore since our society pretty much runs 24 hours a day now.
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Re: Daylight saving ends!
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2018, 11:21:07 PM »
I'd much prefer Daylight Savings Time over Standard time any day. I HATE that it's dark here at 4:30 in the afternoon and I don't care about mornings. Evening is my time for things to do, including astronomy. So that's where I stand!

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Re: Daylight saving ends!
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2018, 11:25:41 PM »
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I'd much prefer Daylight Savings Time over Standard time any day. I HATE that it's dark here at 4:30 in the afternoon and I don't care about mornings. Evening is my time for things to do, including astronomy. So that's where I stand!

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Those are incompatible sentiments.
Daylight Savings time is anathema to observing with a telescope.
You can't have daylight late and astronomy too.

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Re: Daylight saving ends!
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2018, 01:29:08 AM »
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I'd much prefer Daylight Savings Time over Standard time any day. I HATE that it's dark here at 4:30 in the afternoon and I don't care about mornings. Evening is my time for things to do, including astronomy. So that's where I stand!

STARKID2U

Those are incompatible sentiments.
Daylight Savings time is anathema to observing with a telescope.
You can't have daylight late and astronomy too.
Baloney. DST doesn't hurt my observing time in any substantial way. I can push out observing time on the back end easier than on the front.DST actually increases my opportunities to observe.

Dark sky time requires some travel, and that usually means not being set up until after dinner, or more often not being able to travel or set up until after dinner.Either way,once the transition is made back to standard time I am traveling and setting up in the dark...even for an early start.

I can't even say that DST hurts my backyard observing. Typically I have more going on in the summer when sunset is later, and my opportunity to observe comesafter the family activities anyway.Early evening ismostly too busy for anything other than a few minutes of observing snatched if I am lucky.

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Re: Daylight saving ends!
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2018, 06:03:15 AM »
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I just wish they would make a choice one way or the other and then leave it alone!

Same here!!
Maybe they could change the clocks one minute per day over a couple of months so we can ease into it.
And while they're at it, let's switch to driving on the left side of the road, starting first with cars, followed by trucks a few months later.
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Re: Daylight saving ends!
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2018, 02:00:06 AM »
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I just wish they would make a choice one way or the other and then leave it alone!

Same here!!
I'm one of the few that say it doesn't bother me at all. I go to work at 11:45 PM every evening and get home around 1:30 PM every afternoon. By 2:30 PM, I'm asleep, so you see, it doesn't affect me at all, except for having to change the time on ALL of my clocks.


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Re: Daylight saving ends!
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2018, 04:20:57 AM »
The only change that stands a chance would be switching to standard time year-round. The U.S. tried year-round daylight saving tIme back in the 70s. It was quickly repealed after an increase in accidents involving school children walking to school or the school bus stop in the morning darkness.

How easy do you think it would be to find a politician who would vote to again send children out to dodge traffic in the dark?

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Re: Daylight saving ends!
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2018, 09:48:02 AM »
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Years ago, we would maybe spend up to 15 minutes changing clocks, now mostly it's done automatically.
The only clock change I have "automatically", is my computer! I have to change all other clocks in the house, stove, microwave, etc., my wristwatch; so yes, it's still time consuming for me.

Also with DST in the summer, I cannot begin to start observing here until at least 11-11:30 pm; for an old girl that's becoming harder for me, when I'm up at 5am.

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Re: Daylight saving ends!
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2018, 10:36:49 AM »
So with the new time change, the full moon gone, guess what? Forecast for the next 7 days is cloudy and rain.....go figure!

Mayur Wilson

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Re: Daylight saving ends!
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2018, 01:10:51 PM »
Clocks should automatically adjust their speed so that sunrise is ALWAYS at 6:00 A.M. During winter and spring, clocks would run slightly faster (0.1 to 0.2 percent) to keep up with the Sun rising earlier each day; during summer and fall the clocks would run a bit slower. I call this Sunrise Standard Time (SST). The actual length of hours, minutes, and seconds would vary by an amount imperceptible to human beings.

Not only would this eliminate the DST adjustment, it would improve health and safety. Our bodies want to get moving when daylight breaks. Centuries ago, before the tyranny of mechanical clocks began, we got out of bed when the sun rose and the rooster crowed. This is the natural and healthy way to live.

SST would be very difficult to achieve with old fashioned mechanical clocks, but it would be trivial with electronics.

There are a few complications. Sunset time will vary even more than it does now. The amount of the adjustment will increase as you move farther from the Equator. Perhaps each country will adopt its own SST standard based on its latitude. Old fashioned "Mechanical Time" will still need to be used for precise time measurements.

Many amateur astronomers, myself included, will hate Sunrise Standard Time because summer twilight will be even later than before. My personal solution would be to take an afternoon nap if I plan to stargaze (not a problem for me since I'm retired!)

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Re: Daylight saving ends!
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2018, 01:30:19 PM »
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Years ago, we would maybe spend up to 15 minutes changing clocks, now mostly it's done automatically.
The only clock change I have "automatically", is my computer! I have to change all other clocks in the house, stove, microwave, etc., my wristwatch; so yes, it's still time consuming for me.[/quote]
Don't forget all the clocks in your cars. I'm hoping to remember to get to those today.

Rodney Slater

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Re: Daylight saving ends!
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2018, 04:24:08 PM »
On the plus side, it' a reminder to change the clock batteries. I also change my remote control batteries. Although, since retirement, l sometimes don't know what day it is...

Adam Martin

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Re: Daylight saving ends!
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2018, 05:07:28 PM »