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bandretaco

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Re: Locations with generally clear skies and cooler temperatures
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2018, 10:31:57 AM »
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Next time you're up this way, drop me a post.

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Some of my best high altitude observing was up on the Mogollon rim in BLM land east of Payson.


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Re: Locations with generally clear skies and cooler temperatures
« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2018, 04:52:03 PM »
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Flagstaff, being a college town, punches well above its weight in culture/population ratio. And you can get to superb skies with an hour's drive. But I wouldn't exactly call Flag a big city -- more of a three-horse town.
Wow, Tony you are URBAN!!

Flag has a metro area population of 140,000. That is a LOT more than three horses. Pretty close to Phoenix...... only a two hour drive. You hit Sedona within an hour.

The three horses that I had in mind are Flag's economic base: Northern Arizona University, the tourism industry, and services for the Navaho reservation. Originally the railroad, but I bet that doesn't employ many people now.
I think of it as similar to the five-college area near me: Northampton/Amherst/Hadley/Sotuh Hadley Massachusetts. Many people would find that such an area satisfies all their urban needs; others would find it claustrophobic. It's of a size where you're going to get to know personally most of the like-minded people like you -- which has both its good points and its bad points. Very different from the infinite possibilities of a true metropolis, where you never run out of things to experience.

As for Sedona, it's cute enough, but it's far less of a city than Flagstaff.

Having said all that, I don't think you're going to find anywhere else in the U.S. that combines that level of urban sophistication with such easy access to excellent skies.

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Re: Locations with generally clear skies and cooler temperatures
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2018, 12:12:10 PM »
I hear you on Sedona, but when you look at a typical urban area it takes a LOT of square miles to have the urban amenities that are packed into a tourist community like Sedona. You would drive a lot of miles to get the variety in Phoenix.

Talking to Forest Service employees the best weather is San Diego and the central California coast. Followed by higher elevation Arizona communities and communites like Silver City, NM.

Sierra Vista is cheaper than Flagstaff. No snow in winter. It is a hour or more from Tucson and you do have to cross the INTERNAL BORDER CONTROL points to go anywhere. I hate them. Makes me feel like I am back in the Soviet Union.

The perfect temperature out west, due to low humidity, is 85 degrees. That is shorts and t-shirt weather. When you get in the mid-90's and up is what I would consider hot. But then again, living in Boulder City, Nevada I could tell the difference between 115 and a cooling trend when the temperature dropped to 110.

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Re: Locations with generally clear skies and cooler temperatures
« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2018, 10:32:32 AM »
In reference to the post by Kendahl above, I was in Rodeo, N.M. this past December and met his friend at the campground. Very nice people, Extremely helpful campground owners and campground, Portal Sky Village is just a couple of miles away to the west. Very dark skies!!!!! The drawback to the area is it is 60 miles or so to anywhere, and then you are still nowhere. Douglas, Az. is the closest town of any size for grocery shopping, doctors, movie, restaurant, library, gas, auto parts, etc., etc. That's 60 miles, one way. If your car won't start in the morning, and you can't fix it yourself, it's a loooong walk to town for help! The reason the skies are so good though, is it's so far away from everything.

You could live East of Tucson and take an RV out there. It's only about 130 miles! You'll find if you move out West, the previous statement is very apropos!!!! Distances in the East vs. West are VERY different. As somebody above said, try before you buy!!!