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would i be disappointed with the 8" nexstar evolution?
« on: December 28, 2017, 03:10:04 AM »
I've had my binoulars for a couple years now and i really want to move up to a telescope. I've read so many articles on how to choose a good scope but it's like you need every type of scope to see everything. I would love to see planetary detail but i would really love to see nebulae, galaxies, deep sky objects in general. I've read that refractor scopes are the best for deep sky objects but my question is, would the celestron 8" nexstar evolution be able to do this?



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Re: would i be disappointed with the 8" nexstar evolution?
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2017, 11:24:17 PM »
Sure, very versatile scope and lot's to see with it. Jupiter and Saturn put up a good show up to about 200x on a good night. You always have to be aware of the seeing conditions in an about the windy city. Some nights I can only go up to around 150x because of un-steady air.

As far a deep sky objects, the key it to view them under a dark sky, especially with galaxies. The Evolution is a computer driven scope that will help you find objects easily. So if that is important and you don't know the sky well, that can get you up and running quickly.

On the other side, you have the very popular manual Dob scopes. They have a wider field of view vs the SCT. And then there is the cost, $400 for a 8" Dob vs the SCT at more than triple the cost, so apples and oranges.

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Re: would i be disappointed with the 8" nexstar evolution?
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2017, 12:14:20 AM »
The 8" Celestron is a very competent all-rounder. It does equally well on planets and DSO's. However, in order to see DSO's you will have to find darker skies than Chicago. I live next door in Evanston and have a pretty good idea what you are facing as far as light pollution goes. There are nights when I, with my C8, can see some of the Messier DSO's, for example, but they are rare. OTOH, there are lots of cool binary stars, clusters and other, less challenging objects to see, even in your white zone.

BTW, I am not sure where you read that refractors are better at DSO's than reflectors.

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Re: would i be disappointed with the 8" nexstar evolution?
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2017, 05:17:44 AM »
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Sure, very versatile scope and lot's to see with it. Jupiter and Saturn put up a good show up to about 200x on a good night. You always have to be aware of the seeing conditions in an about the windy city. Some nights I can only go up to around 150x because of un-steady air.
As far a deep sky objects, the key it to view them under a dark sky, especially with galaxies. The Evolution is a computer driven scope that will help you find objects easily. So if that is important and you don't know the sky well, that can get you up and running quickly.
On the other side, you have the very popular manual Dob scopes. They have a wider field of view vs the SCT. And then there is the cost, $400 for a 8" Dob vs the SCT at more than triple the cost, so apples and oranges.
yes i have thought of a dob the cost is a big difference but the evolution scope has to many cool features lol. im really not trying to use the computer to locate objects im really trying to keep it natural, i like that you could also use the evolution manuel as well. thank you for the feed back it really means a lot. im glad i found this site i have no one to talk to about this on this hobby that's been growing on me the last couple years now.

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Re: would i be disappointed with the 8" nexstar evolution?
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2017, 07:08:40 AM »
"...would the celestron 8" nexstar evolution be able to do this?"

Absolutely. The 8" Schmidt-Cassegrain is a very capable and versatile general-purpose telescope and the Evolution looks like a very capable and versatile general-purpose mount. I own quite a few scopes and each one has its niche, but I use an 8" Schmidt-Cassegrain more than any other scope.

It never hurts to shop around to see what your options are, but the 8" Evolution looks like a fine choice.

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Re: would i be disappointed with the 8" nexstar evolution?
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2018, 08:40:51 AM »
I suggest also considering an 8" f/6 Newtonian scope. Much cheaper, and more versatile.
Just sayin'.

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Re: would i be disappointed with the 8" nexstar evolution?
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2018, 11:18:29 AM »
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The 8" Celestron is a very competent all-rounder.  It does equally well on planets and DSO's.  However, in order to see DSO's you will have to find darker skies than Chicago.  I live next door in Evanston and have a pretty good idea what you are facing as far as light pollution goes.  There are nights when I, with my C8, can see some of the Messier DSO's, for example, but they are rare.  OTOH, there are lots of cool binary stars, clusters and other, less challenging objects to see, even in your white zone.
BTW, I am not sure where you read that refractors are better at DSO's than reflectors.
yes i definitely would have to take the scope to a dark site to get the full affect. i remember when,i went to Wisconsin and i took my binos,with me and oh man what a difference. i was finally able to see M13 in Hercules and other things i never noticed before. i would at least be able to see the orion nebulae in light polluted chicago right?.......as far as the refractor comment i guess i have to do more research lol

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Re: would i be disappointed with the 8" nexstar evolution?
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2018, 01:54:39 AM »
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YES it will do that and more!No scope will do it all but the Celestron SCT's are very successful. An 8" Celestron SCT from a dark sky location will show good planetary detail, many fine nebulae and lots of galaxies. It is a lifetime scope for some of the most accomplished observers I know. It is a well constructed, compact and integrated package. It is less demanding of eyepieces but will reward whatever you want to throw at it.What it will not do particularly well is give widefield views. No scope will do it all and a widefield scope may not as easily facilitate the kind of magnification you want for planetary and some nebular views and it may be more demanding of eyepieces. This qualification should not detract from the considerable pleasure an 8" Celestron SCT can bring.
thanks im pretty sure im going to pull the trigger on this one. i would love to attach a revolution imager and eventually get a dslr and play around with that

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Re: would i be disappointed with the 8" nexstar evolution?
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2018, 07:00:14 AM »
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"...would the celestron 8" nexstar evolution be able to do this?"
Absolutely. The 8" Schmidt-Cassegrain is a very capable and versatile general-purpose telescope and the Evolution looks like a very capable and versatile general-purpose mount. I own quite a few scopes and each one has its niche, but I use an 8" Schmidt-Cassegrain more than any other scope.
It never hurts to shop around to see what your options are, but the 8" Evolution looks like a fine choice.
yes it seems like a good scope you could take with you anywhere with bearly any hassle

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Re: would i be disappointed with the 8" nexstar evolution?
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2018, 08:31:19 PM »
Chigagostargazer -- I agree with previous posts; the 8" Nexstar Evo will be a good all-around telescope. I spent a lot of years with just binoculars. My first telescope was an inexpensive 60mm refractor. It was pretty frustrating due to the poor mount, but views of a few objects such as Jupiter and Saturn and Andromeda Galaxy inspired me to buy a decent scope. In 2003, I bought an early Nexstar, the 8i. I used it for many years and really enjoyed it. It was great for planets and DSOs. It won't give wide-field views, so keep the binos!

Often, when people are interested in learning the sky, I don't recommend go-to, but if you decide to go that route, you'll likely be happy with your purchase for many years. Although I don't use the 8i anymore, I still have the OTA and use it frequently on both GEM and Alt/Az mounts.

By the way, you mentioned that you heard refractors are best for DSOs. Although I use my refractor more than any other scope due to easy set up and the the great wide-field views, the 8" SCT will do much better for DSOs and will give outstanding planetary views as well. Good luck with your decision!

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Re: would i be disappointed with the 8" nexstar evolution?
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2018, 10:41:22 PM »
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I suggest also considering an 8" f/6 Newtonian scope. Much cheaper, and more versatile.
Just sayin'.
i hear you man but i know im going to do this for the rest of my life so i really want to invest in the best possible beginner scope so i dont mind paying a bit more and the evolution just hitting the budget

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Re: would i be disappointed with the 8" nexstar evolution?
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2018, 08:47:08 PM »
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Chigagostargazer -- I agree with previous posts; the 8" Nexstar Evo will be a good all-around telescope.  I spent a lot of years with just binoculars.  My first telescope was an inexpensive 60mm refractor.  It was pretty frustrating due to the poor mount, but views of a few objects such as Jupiter and Saturn and Andromeda Galaxy inspired me to buy a decent scope.  In 2003, I bought an early Nexstar, the 8i.  I used it for many years and really enjoyed it.  It was great for planets and DSOs.  It won't give wide-field views, so keep the binos!
Often, when people are interested in learning the sky, I don't recommend go-to, but if you decide to go that route, you'll likely be happy with your purchase for many years.  Although I don't use the 8i anymore, I still have the OTA and use it frequently on both GEM and Alt/Az mounts.
By the way, you mentioned that you heard refractors are best for DSOs.  Although I use my refractor more than any other scope due to easy set up and the the great wide-field views, the 8" SCT will do much better for DSOs and will give outstanding planetary views as well.  Good luck with your decision!
quick question would televue eyepieces widen the FOV? i know those eyepieces are expensive but just asking? i think i read that they have a wide FOV

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Re: would i be disappointed with the 8" nexstar evolution?
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2018, 06:30:12 AM »
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quick question would televue eyepieces widen the FOV? i know those eyepieces are expensive but just asking? i think i read that they have a wide FOV

The nexstar will come with a couple plossl eyepieces; not sure what sizes are included, but I believe it includes a 40 and 13mm. Celestron also offers an eyepiece set that's not too expensive. My advice would be to stick with the included plossls and then spend a little more on better eyepieces. I use televue eyepieces (panoptic, nagler t4&t6, radian, plossl) and they give quite nice views with good contrast. Televue plossls are the standard 50 degree FOV, but I also have a couple Nagler T6 (13mm and 9mm) with wider FOV, which is nice. I've found that between 13 and 17mm give me the views I like best with the 8" SCT for most objects. Be aware though, that is purely a personal preference. There are a lot of good eyepieces out there, and many are less expensive than televue, so definitely look into buying used eyepieces until you decide what you like best before you spend a lot of cash.

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Re: would i be disappointed with the 8" nexstar evolution?
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2018, 10:20:55 PM »
Just to clarify, wider FOV eyepieces won't make the telescope into a wide-field scope, but will give you a wider AFOV when observing. Rather than the smaller AFOV of the plossl (imagine looking through a paper towel roll), it will give a wider AFOV (now imagine looking through a 3 inch tube).

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Re: would i be disappointed with the 8" nexstar evolution?
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2018, 03:33:11 AM »
thanks juram