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A park light was installed in the park behind my apartment.
« on: December 24, 2017, 02:41:03 PM »
I was so pleased to move to the rear bedroom.  It was so dark here, and that I could open my window and watch the stars.  Not anymore.  Some paranoid people put a light in the playground.  One night the light just came though the cracks in my blinds, light up my bedroom, exactly like the mild belonged there.

It truly is sad that our country is getting so paraoid, which our leaders believe they have the right to act on such a paranoia.  The park has a curfew stating no one may be there after dark.  The only place anyone may go at night and not be breaking the law would be a bar.

An officer once discovered me star gazing in the park nicely after dark.  He advised me that there was a curfew but that he'd allow me to stargaze.  I've read about other people getting ticketted.  He was fine to allow me to stay, but it bothers me that if I head out again, there is a chance I might be ticketted.  I can not enjoy the perspective understanding that I'm legal.



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Re: A park light was installed in the park behind my apartment.
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2017, 01:04:53 PM »
What happened to the "land of the free" ?? Curfew!!!

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Re: A park light was installed in the park behind my apartment.
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2017, 04:15:03 AM »
Check if your community has a lighting ordinanc, a surprising number do, they built a bourbon warehouse about a quarter mile from my house, and thanks to the requirement that commercial property is required to install full cutoff lighting, it makes very little difference to the amount of skyglow here (in sharp contradistinction to the 6 inch globe light the neighbor thought made such a nice touch a tthe end of their driveway)

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Re: A park light was installed in the park behind my apartment.
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2017, 07:12:20 PM »
A quick good search showed that while many ordinances were proposed in the northwest, most failed. Some that passed were repealed or not enforced. Seatle has one in effect, again, not enforced.

The laws simply stated people should keep their light on their property and not shine it at their neighbor's or up into the sky. The opposition said that people have a right to shine light if it makes them feel safer. The reporter suggested people educate more people about light pollution and the implications of the laws.

I wonder if complaining would work.
The light woke me up at 2:00. It just happens if I roll my face that direction in the night.

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Re: A park light was installed in the park behind my apartment.
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2017, 10:36:54 PM »
Oh yes, and your complaint is for the right reason.....it's affecting your sleep. The powers that be could care less about your hobby, but won't go against the corporate policy of affecting employee productivity......

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Re: A park light was installed in the park behind my apartment.
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2018, 12:47:43 AM »
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I was so happy to move to the back bedroom. It was so dark back here, and I could open my window and see the stars. Not anymore. Some paranoid people put a light in the park. One night the light just came though the cracks in my blinds, lighting up my bedroom, just like the light belonged there.

It really is sad that our country is getting so paraoid, and that our leaders think they have a right to act on that paranoia. The park already has a curfew saying no one may be there after dark. The only place anyone may go at night and not be breaking the law is a bar.

An officer once found me star gazing in the park well after dark. He told me there was a curfew but that he'd let me stargaze. I've read about other people getting ticketted. He was nice to let me stay, but it bothers me that if I ever go out again, there is a chance I could be ticketted. I can't enjoy the view knowing that I'm legal.

If no one may be in the park after dark, the officer should've ticketed himself.

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Re: A park light was installed in the park behind my apartment.
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2018, 05:38:07 AM »
The light is so sod stealers and other ner-do-wells won't hurt themselves and sue the local govt annd be set for the rest of their lives.....only humans think like this....

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Re: A park light was installed in the park behind my apartment.
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2018, 07:45:44 AM »
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What happened to the "land of the free" ?? Curfew!!!


looks like the police state started in the late 70's. I've researched local ordinances, most towns in this state had only 1-2 pages of local laws from the 1600's up to the 1970's. Since then, most have passed 100+ pages of local bylaws, all various restrictions and punishments.

Typically you can't walk out the front door of your house without violating several laws in this state!

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Re: A park light was installed in the park behind my apartment.
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2018, 08:16:29 AM »
If there is something productive to add then fine, but if this goes farther downhill then I will have to lock it.

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Re: A park light was installed in the park behind my apartment.
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2018, 09:16:09 PM »
How about contacting the powers that be and explaining the situation and asking for a shield to be installed?

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Re: A park light was installed in the park behind my apartment.
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2018, 09:45:49 PM »
Just wait awhile...for some unknown reason these lights out there by themselves will be run over by a drunk driver...not to mention, the park closed at dark, then explain why we need light where there's noone to see it....or, maybe the powers that be put it there to attract people to the park at night for ticket revenue (and your taxes pay for the light to boot). So many possibilities, but not one good one....

...and if people now start frequenting the park at night, maybe instead of ticket giving, the police should be there so people can enjoy the park at night unmolested.

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Re: A park light was installed in the park behind my apartment.
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2018, 07:41:59 AM »
Why would a park light be needed after the curfew? No one concerned with their safety would be out there, the light would only invite violators.

The light should only illuminate the park, not trespass onto the nearby apartments where people are trying to sleep, or stargaze.

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Re: A park light was installed in the park behind my apartment.
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2018, 11:59:22 AM »
We have a park behind our house. For years we did not have any problems... until they installed 'security' lighting. All it does is provide adequate illumination for people who shouldn't be there all hours of the night. Ugh.

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Re: A park light was installed in the park behind my apartment.
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2018, 09:44:28 AM »
OK. I'll try to find the powers that be. From other people's reports on CN, they may charge $120 to come out and paint my side of the fixture black. I guess it would be worth it, but still annoying to pay the $120. I should at least ask and find out. I wonder if they would do that for anyone, or just people who sound like they are vocal complainers, or at least people with a long record of voting in local elections.

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Re: A park light was installed in the park behind my apartment.
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2018, 02:37:51 AM »
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OK. I'll try to find the powers that be. From other people's reports on CN, they may charge $120 to come out and paint my side of the fixture black. I guess it would be worth it, but still annoying to pay the $120. I should at least ask and find out. I wonder if they would do that for anyone, or just people who sound like they are vocal complainers, or at least people with a long record of voting in local elections.


The power company in Raleigh and the city in Sunset Beach have respectively come out and shielded (or "blacked out" as you say) a streetlight on our side for free. Down at Sunset Beach, instead of paint, they used a piece of tin foil to do the job. (But down there, the old pyramid-bottom cobra light has now been replaced with a flat-bottom inherently shielded fixture, and hence shielding is no longer needed - again, for free in that instance, but YMMV to what extent your local lighting entity will do what for free vs a fee.