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Todd Kue

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Auto 'Daytime Running Lights'.
« on: December 28, 2017, 08:16:59 PM »
It seems many auto manufactures have become infatuated with providing datime Running Lights as standard equipment. Although I understand their 'supposed' safety value they are a real pain in the arse for astronomers.It seems that for 2014 only Hyundai, Kia and Mitsubishi do not have them as stamdard equipment. I would like to hear how and what other have done to 'permanently' disable them on other makes. Also has anyone asked a dealer to disable them as a condition of sale?



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Re: Auto 'Daytime Running Lights'.
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2018, 07:31:41 AM »
My 2014 Subaru Forester shuts them off with the hand brake up a notch.  They are also on a dedicated fuse which can be pulled without disabling anything else.I do notice less folks pulling out in front of me with them on in daytime, compared with my old car that did not have DRLs so they do help with safety I think.Dave

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Re: Auto 'Daytime Running Lights'.
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2018, 02:24:22 PM »
My VW has them, they can be disabled in the "Convenience" menu. Actually they're not a bad idea provided they can be turned off when not wanted ... in poor (but better than awful) daytime visibility they're more sense than dipped beam headlights. The reversing light, now that's a different matter. Can't disable that without removing the fuse.

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Re: Auto 'Daytime Running Lights'.
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2018, 11:44:59 PM »
I like having daytime running lights for the safety factor, plus I get an insurance discount for having them.  They're also easily turned off on my Toyota with a twist of a dial for times when I don't want them on.

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Re: Auto 'Daytime Running Lights'.
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2018, 02:09:17 AM »
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It seems many auto manufactures have become infatuated with providing datime Running Lights as standard equipment. Although I understand their 'supposed' safety value they are a real pain in the arse for astronomers.

It seems that for 2014 only Hyundai, Kia and Mitsubishi do not have them as stamdard equipment. I would like to hear how and what other have done to 'permanently' disable them on other makes. Also has anyone asked a dealer to disable them as a condition of sale?

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Re: Auto 'Daytime Running Lights'.
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2018, 01:45:49 AM »
<em class="bbc">Daytime running lights surely don't contribute to light pollution, do they? After all, they're competing with our local star...

If this is in regards to these lights inconveniencing other amateurs when leaving the observing field, well... all I can say is that I remember a time not long ago when people used to both arrive at and depart star parties with their headlights on, and those observing were terribly inconvenienced by being compelled for the sake of their night vision to <em class="bbc">take a moment to cover their eyes with their hands, thus allowing the vehicle to be maneuvered safely while either parking or leaving; what's more, they usually endured such travail without complaint. The horror...

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Re: Auto 'Daytime Running Lights'.
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2018, 08:12:17 AM »
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Just set the Emergency Brake one click on my Chevy Suburban would kill the Daytime Running lights.

My former Buick Century was the same way - one click of the emergency brake, and they could be turned off. Won't do any permanent damage to the emergency brake to drive 1/4 of a mile or whatever's needed to get out of range, then click it back off and turn on the full headlights.

My new-to-me Honda Fit has no such constraints, though I find I actually have to remember to turn the darned things ON now...

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Re: Auto 'Daytime Running Lights'.
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2018, 11:29:19 AM »
In Canada DRL are mandatory and are not easily disabled. As has been mentioned in most cars moving the hand brake ore brake on one notch will leave them off.  One partial advantage is the DRLs are of lower intensity.

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Re: Auto 'Daytime Running Lights'.
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2018, 02:43:16 AM »
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I like having daytime running lights for the safety factor
Same here.  I had them added to my older suburban, and driving here during the wintertime, the DRL's are a major safety factor!

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Re: Auto 'Daytime Running Lights'.
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2018, 04:06:34 AM »
On my 2011 Chevy Silverado pickup they can be switched off, but I leave them on except in the rare circumstance involving nighttime observing.However, I've seen several "bad results" from people trying to drive around an 'observing field' at night without lights. If one is going to move a vehicle at night, the headlights should be on. On the other hand, people often need access to their vehicle on an observing field without intent to move it. They should practice doing so with as little creation of light as possible. This is especially true for those using rental cars to attend major star parties.

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Re: Auto 'Daytime Running Lights'.
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2018, 06:31:56 AM »
Please don't get me wrong. I believe in the safety of daytime running lights, however I still want to be able to shut them off when I need to, (like for astronomy).

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Re: Auto 'Daytime Running Lights'.
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2018, 03:20:40 AM »
One of the nicest things (among many others) about owning a Model S is the very astronomer friendly lighting, which is not only subdued, but almost everything can be turned off from the touchscreen. I explained to the guy at the service center how much I liked that the headlights were fully controllable and my reasons for it, not sure he knew what to make of me though.

Here is a example of one of the control panels, nearly everything can be customized/controlled from the settings page: http://cl.ly/UD5f

On a somewhat related note, I don't need any bulky lead acid batteries at a remote site, since I am driving around one large one, which comes with a 12v port in the cabin, very handy.

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Re: Auto 'Daytime Running Lights'.
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2018, 03:57:50 PM »
my 99 corolla has drl's and i often wonder if i went to a star party how i could finesse that. i'm unaware of any switch that shuts them off, and my parking brake is permanently frozen so raising that a notch is not going to happen. i very often forget to turn the lights on when i get into the car after dark, but the running lights come on anyway, and within a few seconds all the rest of the lights come on automatically.

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Re: Auto 'Daytime Running Lights'.
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2018, 01:21:23 AM »
Here in Ontario they are required on new cars and trucks. On my Chev. Uplander they can be shut off.

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Re: Auto 'Daytime Running Lights'.
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2018, 12:01:43 AM »
Daytime running lights are a great safety feature. I like them. If my vehicle does not have them I will use my headlights in the daytime. Being seen is key, in avoiding incidents. (rarely is there such a critter as an accident)Don't get me started on what they call driving lights. You know, that extra set of headlights on every other car I meet on 2 lane roads at night. I really, really do not like driving lights. There should be some kind of legislation to level the field and make headlights equal across all manufacturers in output and 2 in number. Having 4 headlights is plain ridiculous, and blinding everyone you meet on the roads at night is darn near criminal. Those after market super duper extra bright lights are equally ridiculous. I have got to the point now where when I encounter the really bright offenders, I bright light em for that last 2 seconds before we meet with no remorse (as I am shielding my eyes with the other hand to stay straight on the road). Now with my pet peeve out of the way, daytime running lights, while a great safety feature, I could see being an issue at a star party.