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Cesar Lawhorn

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Re: Church of the Perpetually Lit Parking Lot
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2018, 03:33:18 PM »
Just showing them the picture you posted might be enough. Perhaps the Lord then will sayeth to them "Let there NOT be light."

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Re: Church of the Perpetually Lit Parking Lot
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2018, 07:37:34 PM »
In the beginning, there was darkness....

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Re: Church of the Perpetually Lit Parking Lot
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2018, 07:47:46 PM »
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As I said in a previous post, there is ample information on this forum you could print out for them to read to help them understand the situation.

Excellent suggestion! I think that this is key... The general public is mostly unaware of light pollution and it's effects, and the more pertinent data that you can bring to bear on the issue (within reason - one shouldn't inundate them!), the better.

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Re: Church of the Perpetually Lit Parking Lot
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2018, 05:48:02 AM »
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<p class="citation">QuoteYeah, I didn't mention I sleep with a blanket over the bedroom window...

Well, until your situation is brought to the church's attention; you will see no change.

I would at least make an effort to discuss the LP with them, as they have no clue without it being brought to their attention.  As I said in a previous post, there is ample information on this forum you could print out for them to read to help them understand the situation. [/quote]
Agreed.

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Re: Church of the Perpetually Lit Parking Lot
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2018, 05:12:23 AM »
Send the picture to the local paper as part of letter on light pollution. Use a catchy subject line like the heavens share gods glory and local church is lit up at night more like a prison camp to blot it out. A little shaming can be helpful.

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Re: Church of the Perpetually Lit Parking Lot
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2018, 03:47:06 PM »
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The general public is mostly unaware of light pollution and it's effects,
I laughed.  I offered to bring my scope to a family gathering at my elderly father's home. (Where we have all such gatherings).  My father was one of the most excited about looking thru the scope.  His idea of a good place to set up the telescope was along the side of a somewhat busy street next to house... to which I replied.. "isn't that right under a street light?"His response:  "Yeah, but it's not very bright."  I think that really sums up most peoples postion &amp; understanding on the subject.

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Re: Church of the Perpetually Lit Parking Lot
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2018, 06:26:43 AM »
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t. A little shaming can be helpful.

Not if the OP wants a positive outcome here.

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Re: Church of the Perpetually Lit Parking Lot
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2018, 11:51:09 AM »
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Send the picture to the local paper as part of letter on light pollution. Use a catchy subject line like the heavens share gods glory and local church is lit up at night more like a prison camp to blot it out. A little shaming can be helpful.

Well, I'll probably go with a little diplomacy first...

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Re: Church of the Perpetually Lit Parking Lot
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2018, 11:55:17 AM »
Agree with the previous pair of posts. These guys aren't trying to create a problem. They think they're solving or preventing one. Patience, persistence, and education, all offered in as polite a manner as possible. If that doesn't work, you can try more insistent tactic, but if you start out by being confrontational, you've slammed the door on ever getting them to understand that there's a better way to light their property.

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Re: Church of the Perpetually Lit Parking Lot
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2018, 09:30:46 PM »
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Agree with the previous pair of posts. These guys aren't trying to create a problem. They think they're solving or preventing one. Patience, persistence, and education, all offered in as polite a manner as possible. If that doesn't work, you can try more insistent tactic, but if you start out by being confrontational, you've slammed the door on ever getting them to understand that there's a better way to light their property.
+1  Let's remember, the OP has not even addressed this LP to the people in charge of the church yet.

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Re: Church of the Perpetually Lit Parking Lot
« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2018, 10:10:49 AM »
I agree shaming isn't going to help, but mentioning you're just trying to see all of god's glory may.

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Re: Church of the Perpetually Lit Parking Lot
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2018, 05:30:13 PM »
To the OP: Just an idea... See if you can get those in charge to turn off the lights one night and join you at your observing site. Arrange to have someone back at the church with his/her hand on the light switch. Let them get a sense for how the sky looks nice and dark, then make a call and have the lights come on. The difference should make the point as clear as it can be.

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Re: Church of the Perpetually Lit Parking Lot
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2018, 05:10:42 AM »
The old saying "a picture is worth a thousand words", certainly applies to this suggestion!  Not only would the demonstration show how LP affects the night sky, the OP may very well interest others in astronomy!