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Re: Fracking threatens to cripple Wagman Observatory
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2018, 09:57:00 PM »
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The difficult part is that drillers are used to getting their way.  They claim they don't have to abide by local ordinances.  These include light pollution ordinances.  I have a sense that they have the power to do whatever they want.
"The government's enthusiasm for fracking arises from something it shares with politicians the world over: a macho fixation with extractive industries...Extracting resources, like war, is the real deal: what politicians seem to consider a proper, manly pursuit. Conserving energy or using gas from waste or sustaining fish stocks are treated as the concerns of sissies and hippies: even if, in hard economic terms, they make more sense."What is behind this fracking mania? Unbridled machismo:http://www.theguardi...n-fracking-m...

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Re: Fracking threatens to cripple Wagman Observatory
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2018, 10:12:08 PM »
I agree with this.  While I'm disappointed with many of the aspects of gas drilling, and believe that the drillers aren't as environmentally conscientious or honest as they could be.  The alternatives are worse.  Recently some very dirty coal plants were shut down in western PA.  These were responsible for creating a cancer pocket in my region.  Now that they are gone, many lives will be saved at the expense of some light pollution.  The increase in natural gas production allowed this to happen.  What about the cancers that will probably arise from contaminated wells and water supplies? Cleaning Peter to contaminate Paul....

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Re: Fracking threatens to cripple Wagman Observatory
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2018, 06:35:04 AM »
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I agree with this.  While I'm disappointed with many of the aspects of gas drilling, and believe that the drillers aren't as environmentally conscientious or honest as they could be.  The alternatives are worse.  Recently some very dirty coal plants were shut down in western PA.  These were responsible for creating a cancer pocket in my region.  Now that they are gone, many lives will be saved at the expense of some light pollution.  The increase in natural gas production allowed this to happen. 

What about the cancers that will probably arise from contaminated wells and water supplies? Cleaning Peter to contaminate Paul....

I'm not going to write of the dangers of contaminated water supplies, but it's much easier to treat contaminated water then it is to treat contaminated air.  One can stay away from contaminated water, but not the air.

Personally, I think much stricter oversight over well casings would go along way to limit the fears.  It seems people want either no drilling or limitless drilling.  I find myself in the camp where I think the drilling is fine as long as they do absolutely everything they can to limit the environmental dangers.  And have the government looking over their shoulders.

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Re: Fracking threatens to cripple Wagman Observatory
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2018, 06:53:42 AM »
Forcing the fracking industry to add taggents to the fluid they use so if water is polluted its instantly obvious from the unique markers who did it. It works for explosive manufacturers. Mind you it would never fly as it would stop the years and years of it wasn't us legal haggling when wells get contaminated. Simple solution but lawyer rich industry to prevent it.Phil

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Re: Fracking threatens to cripple Wagman Observatory
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2018, 04:45:00 PM »
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From my dark site, I can see light pollution from the drilling towers up-lighting.  And of course there is more truck traffic on the roads.

When they are flaring.......

According to discussions at Cherry Springs, there will be far less of a need for flaring as soon as the gas lines are installed. Right now the PA drillers have to flare because there are no gas lines to sent the product to.

The up-lighting on the towers are required by various Fed and State workplace safety regulations. We'll have to live with them for 10 years or so.

However, the IDA is working on a proposed state anti-LP law specifically covering gas and oil drilling for Pennsylvania that would be similar (or the same) as the existing one in Texas. It would help a lot.