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Scott Rogers

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Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« on: December 29, 2017, 09:28:11 PM »
This is an article about a large commercial greenhouse near Wapakoneta, Ohio--

http://www.daytondai...bh523ffFL7gkfO/
This is one of many that have been recently constructed or in the planning stages, including some near Delta, Ohio (near the Ohio Turnpike) and Huron (near the SR-2/US-6 JCT east of Sandusky)

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2018, 03:34:07 AM »
I drive past theone in Delta often. They turn on grow lights sometime during the night...and boy are they bright. They put up panels to block the light from escaping out the sides of the buildings but not the top.It looks like a giant shearch light shinniing upwards. Good thing i don't observe anywhere near it.

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2018, 11:53:54 AM »
From Phillip Creed's link:
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The first greenhouse has more than 9,000 lights that provide “sunlight” 24/7 that can be seen from miles away at night.
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and:
<p class="citation">QuoteGolden Fresh Farms, a Canadian-based division of Red Sun Farms, opened its $22.5 million, 20-acre greenhouse to the public last week about an hour north of Dayton near Interstate 75 and U.S. 33.
During the next 10 years, Red Sun Farms based in Kingsville, Ontario, wants to construct 200 acres of greenhouses at the site. The completed facility would create 400 jobs with an annual payroll of $15 million.
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OUCH! Good luck winning the argument about light pollution in the rust belt, against the claim of 400 permanent jobs, plus the other jobs involved in constructing these light-monsters.

Wanna bet the tomatoes will be the kind bio-engineered to be picked before they're really edible and artificially ripened into either canning tomatoes or really blah supermarket tomatoes?

At least, that's a long way from Canal Fulton, Ohio where your sig says you live. So is Delta.

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2018, 04:39:34 AM »
Wow, might even be worse that a Marcellus or Utica gas well sites with respect to light pollution. I'm all for jobs, but I hope we don't get too many of these things, especially in remote rural locations.

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2018, 12:55:13 PM »
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I drive past the one in Delta often.  They turn on grow lights sometime during the night...and boy are they bright.  They put up panels to block the light from escaping out the sides of the buildings but not the top.  It looks like a giant shearch light shinniing upwards.  Good thing i don't observe anywhere near it.

What hours do they operate the lights?   And is it year-round, or is it primarily a wintertime thing?
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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2018, 02:37:05 PM »
I saw this on our local news this evening. Some of the neighbors don't like it at all. They describe it as like having permanent twilight. Ugh.

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2018, 02:50:37 PM »
Well, we've finally figured out how to grow plants in a way that increases CO2 in the atmosphere.

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2018, 03:02:03 AM »
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I drive past theone in Delta often. They turn on grow lights sometime during the night...and boy are they bright. They put up panels to block the light from escaping out the sides of the buildings but not the top.It looks like a giant shearch light shinniing upwards. Good thing i don't observe anywhere near it.

Is the light confined to a narrow column, or does it diffuse into a broader shape?

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2018, 06:04:22 AM »
I am not sure of the exact time they turn them on but it is around midnight and then they stay on until sunrise. They are used year round. The light winds up being a large column rising from the buildings. They have built two so far; they are very large multiple acres each. They plan to build more buildings in the future. They just need to put light blocking panels on the roof to prevent this. But that will block light during the day so i would not hold my breath.....

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2018, 09:54:55 PM »
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I am not sure of the exact time they turn them on but it is around midnight and then they stay on until sunrise. They are used year round. The light winds up being a large column rising from the buildings. They have built two so far; they are very large multiple acres each. They plan to build more buildings in the future. They just need to put light blocking panels on the roof to prevent this. But that will block light during the day so i would not hold my breath.....

If they have that much money..... motorized panels that can be opened during the day, and closed at night, would be ideal. After all, they are paying for all that light to grow plants, not shine it up into the sky. Reflective panels closed at night would get more light on the plants for the same cost for the electricity.

....and Yet another reason to lobby for anti-LP laws.....

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2018, 10:08:15 PM »
Quote
From Phillip Creed's link:
<p class="citation">Quote
The first greenhouse has more than 9,000 lights that provide “sunlight” 24/7 that can be seen from miles away at night.
and:
<p class="citation">QuoteGolden Fresh Farms, a Canadian-based division of Red Sun Farms, opened its $22.5 million, 20-acre greenhouse to the public last week about an hour north of Dayton near Interstate 75 and U.S. 33.
During the next 10 years, Red Sun Farms based in Kingsville, Ontario, wants to construct 200 acres of greenhouses at the site. The completed facility would create 400 jobs with an annual payroll of $15 million.
[/quote]
OUCH! Good luck winning the argument about light pollution in the rust belt, against the claim of 400 permanent jobs, plus the other jobs involved in constructing these light-monsters.

Wanna bet the tomatoes will be the kind bio-engineered to be picked before they're really edible and artificially ripened into either canning tomatoes or really blah supermarket tomatoes?

At least, that's a long way from Canal Fulton, Ohio where your sig says you live. So is Delta.

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We have one about 25miles from me.,I don't "see the light".,the tomatoes are the best in the store.,sorry to say.,

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2018, 03:31:46 AM »

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2018, 07:07:47 AM »
Horrible Phil. Seems like a simple night time roof shield will solve the issue. During the day, retract the darn thing to let in natural sunlight.

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2018, 12:27:33 AM »

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2018, 03:20:08 AM »
Thanks for the update, Chuck. I left a comment there.
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