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Marquez Faulkner

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Re: Light green zone - You've gotta be bleepin' kidding me!
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2018, 09:16:55 PM »
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Jon, have you considered electronically assisted observing in near realtime or realtime? It has taken all my frustration with LP away. I can stay in my backyard using a small scope and see quite a bit more than usual high LP targets. Stop by EAA forum if you ever feel so frustrated you want to quit observing in the city. Many methods and gear used but they all pretty much cut through heavy LP to add a lot more targets than doubles, lunar, planetary, and large clusters.

No, I've never heard of this. So you're saying that even with my 5" Mak, I can see a lot more with just video?

The thing for me though is to get those photons directly into my eyeballs after travelling for hundreds or thousands of years. There's a magic in that that seeing it on the screen would take away for me.

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Re: Light green zone - You've gotta be bleepin' kidding me!
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2018, 09:19:27 PM »
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Jon, have you considered electronically assisted observing in near realtime or realtime? It has taken all my frustration with LP away. I can stay in my backyard using a small scope and see quite a bit more than usual high LP targets. Stop by EAA forum if you ever feel so frustrated you want to quit observing in the city. Many methods and gear used but they all pretty much cut through heavy LP to add a lot more targets than doubles, lunar, planetary, and large clusters.

No, I've never heard of this. So you're saying that even with my 5" Mak, I can see a lot more with just video?

The thing for me though is to get those photons directly into my eyeballs after travelling for hundreds or thousands of years. There's a magic in that that seeing it on the screen would take away for me.
Yeah. You would see a lot more, but if you prefer regular viewing, then that is fine too. Its just an option there if you get frustrated. I use night vision eyepieces to overcome light pollution. Some use video. Some use live view cameras. A lot of different ways to cut lp. Just remember the forum is there if you ever are interested. I switch up to regular eyepieces for planetary and lunar but the faint stuff I like my night vision eyepieces.

Some people are Ok with a few dark site trips a year to see the faint stuff and the rest of the year just look at brightest objects. Many ways to enjoy the hobby.

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Re: Light green zone - You've gotta be bleepin' kidding me!
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2018, 06:07:33 AM »
I live in central Europe, in a region where a green zone is considered dark. I was one sailing offshore in the mediterranean sea, in a moonless night, far from any artificial light: I know my way in the sky, but what I did see that night was really mind-blowing! I could barelyorient myself, because the familiar constellations where confused among so many faint stars... for a brief moment I was even asking myself: "mmm... is THAT really Orion?" then it became clear how much we did destroy the night sky...

Now I wonder if I will ever see such a sky again...

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Re: Light green zone - You've gotta be bleepin' kidding me!
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2018, 06:14:03 AM »
We have plenty of green zones around us and black not far away, and looking for a place to camp in a black area. It makes me very sad to read this post because it looks like some futuristic fairy tale instead of reality for so many of you. And yet if we all showed up at local governments to protest the destruction of the night sky we would be called down for it. Simple things like asking that all future replacements be shielded, and request ordinances on indirect lighting and more.

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Re: Light green zone - You've gotta be bleepin' kidding me!
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2018, 10:00:17 AM »
Three and a half hours to the black zone for me…..Maine! I need to get up there more oftenAttached Thumbnails


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Re: Light green zone - You've gotta be bleepin' kidding me!
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2018, 04:44:15 PM »
Ooooh, purty!

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Re: Light green zone - You've gotta be bleepin' kidding me!
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2018, 10:00:34 PM »
Hi John
Yes, Freestone benefits from the darkness of the Pacific ocean to the west, something I share in our Northern SF bay area town, about 30miles to the south of there. I am so blessed to be tucked behind the hills, which block a significant percentage of city lights to the southeast. An entertaining sky year round, in a yellow-green zone, with dark dropoff to the west and south,one often forgets how many people never see this.
 At thanksgiving in Oakland last year, I almost cried for my young nephew being raised where he is lucky to see the moon amid all the glare, and only sees stars on vacation. You are very brave to persue astronomy where it is so difficult to see. Knowing what treasures await make the persuit always worthwhile!

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Re: Light green zone - You've gotta be bleepin' kidding me!
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2018, 01:17:56 PM »
Well, now that you know what the sky can look like outside NY, get in the car and drive up to the Palisades parkway and find a spot along one of the lake areas and treat yourself!

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Re: Light green zone - You've gotta be bleepin' kidding me!
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2018, 10:34:36 PM »
If only I had a car . . .

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Re: Light green zone - You've gotta be bleepin' kidding me!
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2018, 08:36:16 AM »
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Hi John
Yes, Freestone benefits from the darkness of the Pacific ocean to the west,

The area north of SF is great for dark skies so close to a huge metro area. My friends lived in Sausalito for a while and I was surprised at how dark the western and northern skies were, even darker if you go up in the headlands a bit.