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No luck removing or blocking street light in front
« on: December 24, 2017, 04:40:57 AM »
In my front lawn I have an very bright street lighting, not sure what type of bulb it's, but the light is white.  I really don't require a porch light on a dark moonless night to unload groceries out of my vehicle.  This light is blinding.We had a tree fall and take out a line in the front of the home, so NYSEG was here doing repair.  I asked one of the men, "Can you feel you could do something to block or eliminate that street lighting?  It is shining in my daughters room and she is having trouble sleeping."  The guy said he would come out another day to finish the lines and he'll bring a shield for the mild.  I felt fairly hopeful that I could finally use my front lawn instead of my tree infested backyard.The following day the guy showed up and I ask if he had the protector, he said he was unable to get approval to shield the light.Approval to shield a light?  Is this seriously something?  He told me to get heavier/darker curtains for the room.  I feel like there is no hope now.



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Re: No luck removing or blocking street light in front
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2017, 10:33:09 AM »
I hear ya

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Re: No luck removing or blocking street light in front
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2017, 05:25:05 AM »
This LP thing has gone way too far.

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Re: No luck removing or blocking street light in front
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2017, 09:53:12 PM »
Keep calling them, to the point of being annoying.
Find out how to get approval.
Tell them the light flickers sometimes.
Your outdoor noma lights won't come on anymore!
The light is interfering with your security cam.
The squeeky wheel gets the grease.
Be squeeky.
Sam

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Re: No luck removing or blocking street light in front
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2017, 12:43:33 AM »
Tell them that you have RIGHT to not allow light on your land! I know some paint black on one side to block light on one side. OR you buy upgrade reduce glare light and they will replace streetlight at your front yard. Ask them first before you buy.  Hope everything work out good for you!

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Re: No luck removing or blocking street light in front
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2017, 12:20:34 PM »
In all honesty addressing such situations come down to whether the town/city regards truncating the illumination from this streetlight as a safety/law suit concern. Believe me, should some accident, or crime, occur following shielding of the light a smart lawyer will surely surface with a case that claims the town, or city's, action in doing so was responsible for it and liable. That is just what such venues worry about today.As to the idea that you have a "right" to prohibit light trespass on your property will not hold any water unless (a) the particular venue has some specific has a local/state law saying you do, or (b) you take the matter to court and fight it out.Your best hope was offered in the advice given previously, suggesting that you become a pest to the DPW about the matter until either something minimum is done, or you get a letter from the town/city addressing why it will not be done. BrooksObs

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Re: No luck removing or blocking street light in front
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2017, 11:56:46 PM »
Or we all team up as a gigantic organism to eat this problem whole. I think this subject is near and dear enough to all of us. If 10% of the CN membership called op's Utility or city, whomever is giving out the approvals, and asked about street lights and sleep disorders, some results should follow. This is a well documented issue and one that BrooksObs points out, is a legal matter. Good luck and PM me that utility/city phone #. I'd love to help.

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Re: No luck removing or blocking street light in front
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2018, 01:28:50 AM »
Thanks for the suggestions. I can't see how this light being blocked towards my house would be a safety issue. There's another one about 10 yards down the street in both directions, but they're blocked by bushes/trees from my yard. I'll keep pestering them.

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Re: No luck removing or blocking street light in front
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2018, 03:57:42 AM »
Talking to the repairman, or simply calling the utility to have a shield put in place, while easy, probably won't garner the desired result.

However, <em class="bbc">writing them concerning the situation, and starting a paper trail, is more likely to lead to a shield being installed, in my experience.

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Re: No luck removing or blocking street light in front
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2018, 11:57:50 PM »
You could try citing the studies showing adverse medical effects from night lighting. Breast cancer makes even the most curmudgeonly folks stop and think for at least a split second.

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Re: No luck removing or blocking street light in front
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2018, 08:37:28 PM »
It's often a matter of talking to the RIGHT person - who can be maddeningly difficult to discern. It took me 2 years to figure out that by contacting my Village Administrator (and NOT the electric company) got to the RIGHT person within the electric company, who came out, reviewed the lights, determined they were under their jurisdiction (other lights in town were the Village's), and new fixtures got put up within 3 days.But the other nearly 2 years were spent being frustrated at the inaction or wrong actions being taken. Try contacting someone within your local political realm - and keep contacting people until you can find a sympathetic ear for someone who can do something to help you. ASK in those words, "Will you please help me?" Explain that putting up curtains is akin to asking people who are subjected to loud music being told to buy earplugs - that's wrong. Shielded lights exist - they should be installed and not trespassing INTO your home, period. Make the case - over and over and over again if you have to - and bring pictures (pictures to the person that helped me were a big reason why he said, "Oh, yeah... I see what that's a problem.")Be patient. Be polite. Above all, be persistent. ASK exactly when someone should get back to you. If they say 2 weeks, follow up in 3 weeks. If they say 4 weeks, follow up in 5 weeks. Give them a little extra time, and then use their own words to say, "Hi, just getting back you - you had said you were going to try to find something out in X timeframe." And by giving them MORE time, you're being patient and polite.Keep at it - go to local political meetings if you must. Contact an alderman/woman or trustee or whatever other representative form of local government you have. They are there to represent you - ask for their help. It may take a long time - but don't give up. Keep pressing; these things take a long time to get changed, unfortunately.

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Re: No luck removing or blocking street light in front
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2018, 12:44:26 AM »
You know, tornadoes and Thunderstorms with high winds have been known to snap off light poles....cars have even been known to hit and run.  But the chances are against you....

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Re: No luck removing or blocking street light in front
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2018, 01:25:03 PM »
My brief experience in getting a street lamp shielded:

I first contacted the local city office, which directed me to the traffic engineer, which I spoke to in person.  After a couple of emails back and forth (with several diagrams with light coverage and spill, etc), their solution was for me to pay for the relocation of the lamp post.  You can guess the cost is quite astronomical for a single move, so I left the issue to rest.

A couple of months later, it dawned on me that my utility bill had a customer service number on it - called them and they confirmed that they were in charge of the street lamps in the neighborhood.  I requested for it to be shielded, and within 2 days they had a truck out to slip in a metal shield!

Now, I have 2 additional street lamps pouring into my backyard, by is separated by neighbors.  I was told that because the lamps weren't directly adjacent to my property, I couldn't ask for them to be shielded - to paraphrase, my neighbors might be upset that they now have less lighting onto their property from the street lamps

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Re: No luck removing or blocking street light in front
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2018, 12:45:39 AM »
Where I observe, there are four street lights, a one-way street FACING towards where I set up, several houses and lots of apartment, ALL having their porch lights on.  The one-way street almost always seems to have someone parked or moving very slowly at night with their lights or high beams on.So, getting desperate, I made a lean-to sheild since I can't have a permanent set up and don't have the space to store a PVC framed light blocker set up.  The lean-to is a dual sided heavy duty tarp that is very thick and light just doesn't get through.  Because it is an 8 X 12 foot tarp, I got some adjustable tent poles and a large amount of glow-in-the-dark tent rope.  This seems to work fine for me.

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Re: No luck removing or blocking street light in front
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2018, 04:04:19 AM »
Working in my secret underground lair, my research into localized EMP pulse creation continues unabated.....