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Adam Watkins

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2018, 01:31:21 PM »
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There having a similar issue around Laconia New Hampshire and people are complaining about it. I read an article a few months ago that a huge one in Poland is causing light domes across the border in the Czech republic and are annoying the Czechs.. I am worried about this, because of the legalization of marijuana in the state next door where my dark site is will undoubtedly spawn many greenhouse operations-that is if the Feds allow it.I imagine Maine, with its short growing season will also experience an upsurge to meet the demand of their legalized market and then one of the last large areas of pretty good skies on the east coast will shrink even further

The pot growers are already using 24/7 facilities like that in Colorado. They are fenced and brightly lit for "security", so not only are there lights in the greenhouses, but also huge light towers to illuminate the areas around the farm. In dark areas these operations create significant light domes. Colorado is a "right to farm" state and that means complainers will be told to go pound sand.
I assume that the pot "farmers" also have the right to shield their lights?? Make it their duty.

Does cannabis not grow during the day?[/quote]
The right to farm laws shield farmers from nuisance lawsuits. They can create dust, noise, odors, nightime lights, etc., and surrounding property owners basically have no recourse.[/quote]
Such laws would seem to be in profound violation of the First and Fourteenth Amendments in the US.

Dan Square

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2018, 05:46:02 PM »
Let's not go into this area. If farmers/ranchers were established first, they have their rights also. Bet most here enjoy their food these people bring to our tables, but you simply complain if you decide to live along side them.

Let's stay on the subject of LP; the farmers are not the major contributors in this area, so let's concentrate on those that are, and get back on the subject of this thread, the greenhouses.

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2018, 05:59:19 PM »
If a "farmer" out in the country can build a big greenhouse and light it up all night, then I should be able to do the same in my backyard. Both facilities will cause light pollution, unnecessarily.

The farmer grows tomatoes. I grow tomatoes. He sells his, I eat some of mine and give the rest away. But he has more rights because he makes money from the tomatoes?

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2018, 11:11:24 PM »
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If a "farmer" out in the country can build a big greenhouse and light it up all night, then I should be able to do the same in my backyard. Both facilities will cause light pollution, unnecessarily.

Of course you can, unless your home falls under any LP restrictions; but isn't this getting kind of silly? BTW, I'd assume it's not farmers building the big greenhouses, rather companies.

Can't we just simply stick to the subject of these large greenhouses that are causing LP problems for the surrounding area?

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2018, 11:29:47 AM »
I think that farmers, be they individuals or corporations, should be just as subject to a nuisance lawsuit as a "non-farmer" would be for creating the same nuisance. So to bring this fully on-topic, neighbors should be able to sue the owners and users of light-polluting greenhouses, anywhere.

Robert Bass

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2018, 12:58:48 PM »
"So to bring this fully on-topic, neighbors should be able to sue the owners and users of light-polluting greenhouses, anywhere."

I don't see anyone disagreeing with this statement about those large greenhouses that are unshielded!

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Re: Large Ohio greenhouses--This...doesn't sound good
« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2018, 05:57:38 AM »
If there is a law against something, it can theoretically be enforced. If there is no law, a nuisance lawsuit should still be possible. Laws should apply equally. But large numbers of them are not, or are written in such a way that they cannot.