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Daniel Horton

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2018, 12:30:40 AM »
they asked you to buy some shade for your windows so their light does not inter your house ... mmmh ... maybe rent some stadium sized speakers, pointed in their direction, play the "coming of the valkyres" at full blast every night, all night, and when they complain ... ask them to buy some ear plugs ... or even better, rent some of these giant chicken frying search lights they use for events, and shine them at their house ... tell them, you need this to feel safe, after all, no burglar will come to your house since they risk being incinerated by these lights ... and then ask them to buy some shades or curtains ...

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2018, 02:17:57 AM »
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they asked you to buy some shade for your windows so their light does not inter your house ... mmmh ... maybe rent some stadium sized speakers, pointed in their direction, play the "coming of the valkyres" at full blast every night, all night, and when they complain ... ask them to buy some ear plugs ... or even better, rent some of these giant chicken frying search lights they use for events, and shine them at their house ... tell them, you need this to feel safe, after all, no burglar will come to your house since they risk being incinerated by these lights ... and then ask them to buy some shades or curtains ...
For the first part they'll just call the cops if someone plays music at night. Better play some annoying animal sounds like an owl.

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2018, 03:02:58 AM »
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<p class="citation">Quotethey asked you to buy some shade for your windows so their light does not inter your house ... mmmh ... maybe rent some stadium sized speakers, pointed in their direction, play the "coming of the valkyres" at full blast every night, all night, and when they complain ... ask them to buy some ear plugs ... or even better, rent some of these giant chicken frying search lights they use for events, and shine them at their house ... tell them, you need this to feel safe, after all, no burglar will come to your house since they risk being incinerated by these lights ... and then ask them to buy some shades or curtains ...
For the first part they'll just call the cops if someone plays music at night. Better play some annoying animal sounds like an owl. [/quote]

Actually, it would be better to behave like a mature adult and not try to "get back at them".

Such an approach is simply CHILDISH.

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2018, 08:18:39 AM »
I was strongly tempted to take some mirrors and mount them on a simple wooden frame and reflect the light back to a particularly annoying neighbor's unshielded lights that are on all night long about 340 nights a year. But since the wife and I are moving to an even more light polluted neighborhood   next year why stir the puddin' here.

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2018, 08:34:32 PM »
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<p class="citation">Quote<p class="citation">Quotethey asked you to buy some shade for your windows so their light does not inter your house ... mmmh ... maybe rent some stadium sized speakers, pointed in their direction, play the "coming of the valkyres" at full blast every night, all night, and when they complain ... ask them to buy some ear plugs ... or even better, rent some of these giant chicken frying search lights they use for events, and shine them at their house ... tell them, you need this to feel safe, after all, no burglar will come to your house since they risk being incinerated by these lights ... and then ask them to buy some shades or curtains ...
For the first part they'll just call the cops if someone plays music at night. Better play some annoying animal sounds like an owl. [/quote]

Actually, it would be better to behave like a mature adult and not try to "get back at them".

Such an approach is simply CHILDISH. [/quote]

I'm pretty sure that was a joke.

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2018, 03:48:41 AM »
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<p class="citation">Quote<p class="citation">Quote<p class="citation">Quotethey asked you to buy some shade for your windows so their light does not inter your house ... mmmh ... maybe rent some stadium sized speakers, pointed in their direction, play the "coming of the valkyres" at full blast every night, all night, and when they complain ... ask them to buy some ear plugs ... or even better, rent some of these giant chicken frying search lights they use for events, and shine them at their house ... tell them, you need this to feel safe, after all, no burglar will come to your house since they risk being incinerated by these lights ... and then ask them to buy some shades or curtains ...
For the first part they'll just call the cops if someone plays music at night. Better play some annoying animal sounds like an owl.

Actually, it would be better to behave like a mature adult and not try to "get back at them".

Such an approach is simply CHILDISH. [/quote]

I'm pretty sure that was a joke. [/quote]

I'm pretty sure you just made my case for me!

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2018, 04:24:59 PM »
The posts by Guy Noir and darkness were tongue in cheek, at least to me.  CN has a tradition of lighthearted banter even when the thread is serious, and without the humor it would be a duller place.  If you're unsure about the poster's intent, why not give them the benefit of the doubt.  In any case, there's no need for personal attacks.

Geoff

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2018, 07:23:15 PM »
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<p class="citation">Quote<p class="citation">Quotethey asked you to buy some shade for your windows so their light does not inter your house ... mmmh ... maybe rent some stadium sized speakers, pointed in their direction, play the "coming of the valkyres" at full blast every night, all night, and when they complain ... ask them to buy some ear plugs ... or even better, rent some of these giant chicken frying search lights they use for events, and shine them at their house ... tell them, you need this to feel safe, after all, no burglar will come to your house since they risk being incinerated by these lights ... and then ask them to buy some shades or curtains ...
For the first part they'll just call the cops if someone plays music at night. Better play some annoying animal sounds like an owl. [/quote]

Actually, it would be better to behave like a mature adult and not try to "get back at them".

Such an approach is simply CHILDISH. [/quote]

I suppose you're right about this approach being CHILDISH. Some people might not even notice an owl. But when your windows are trembling from elephant roars at 1 AM you might rethink attracting wild animals from whatever nearest city that has a zoo with your lights.

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2018, 03:04:30 PM »
I'm pretty sure that unshielded outdoor lighting attracts zombies. Geoff

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2018, 10:22:57 PM »
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sweet. it turns out that they are in clear and full violation of what i just found for our small city:

(1) All outdoor lighting shall have full cutoff-type fixtures (See below.) Cutoffs shall shield bulbs from visibility and may consist of internal baffles or reflectors or external panels or other mechanisms.
(a) General site lighting shall not exceed 90º, the horizontal plane of bottom of lamp fixture. No uplighting is allowed; parking, security and aesthetic lighting must shine downward.
(b) Spotlights used to illuminate buildings, signs or specific site amenities/features shall be targeted on such objects so as to prevent direct uplighting. Cutoffs shall limit lighting to a forty-five-degree angle above the horizontal plane.
© Upward search or spotlighting of the sky for entertainment or advertising purposes is prohibited.
good to know i have some backup if we cant get something amicable going. thanks for the response!

How is this enforced, or what is the process to enforce these regulations?

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2018, 01:10:42 AM »
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<p class="citation">Quotesweet. it turns out that they are in clear and full violation of what i just found for our small city:(1) All outdoor lighting shall have full cutoff-type fixtures (See below.) Cutoffs shall shield bulbs from visibility and may consist of internal baffles or reflectors or external panels or other mechanisms.(a) General site lighting shall not exceed 90º, the horizontal plane of bottom of lamp fixture. No uplighting is allowed; parking, security and aesthetic lighting must shine downward.(b) Spotlights used to illuminate buildings, signs or specific site amenities/features shall be targeted on such objects so as to prevent direct uplighting. Cutoffs shall limit lighting to a forty-five-degree angle above the horizontal plane.© Upward search or spotlighting of the sky for entertainment or advertising purposes is prohibited. good to know i have some backup if we cant get something amicable going. thanks for the response!
How is this enforced, or what is the process to enforce these regulations? [/quote]I suppose The Code Enforcement Officers do the enforcement, but it'd pretty obvious to the neighbour who tipped them off unless they do a regular inspection, which they'd do during the day.

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2018, 10:39:37 PM »
Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not;a sense of humor to console him for what he is.Francis Bacon

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2018, 02:08:35 AM »
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The posts by Guy Noir and darkness were tongue in cheek, at least to me.  CN has a tradition of lighthearted banter even when the thread is serious, and without the humor it would be a duller place.  If you're unsure about the poster's intent, why not give them the benefit of the doubt.  In any case, there's no need for personal attacks.

Geoff

Mea Maxima Culpa.

No personal attacks were intended .

If I wanted to follow a comedy routine, I'd do so on an appropriate site.

Here, I was hoping to follow/participate in, a serious discussion of issues related to light pollution and light tresspass. IMO, it would be better not ot have to continually ask myself "Is this person trying to make a joke, or are they serious?"

Perhaps I'm in the wrong place for that to happen.

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2018, 04:22:57 AM »
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How is this enforced, or what is the process to enforce these regulations?
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I suppose The Code Enforcement Officers do the enforcement, but it'd pretty obvious to the neighbour who tipped them off unless they do a regular inspection, which they'd do during the day.[/quote]

I thought i mentioned this above.. maybe not..the building inspectors office gave me the contact name of a person to email if i don't get any results. he said the email will serve as the required written request and they'll go out and check it out.

of course they'll know it was me if it comes to that. who cares?  I'm perfectly willing to be known as the person who didn't like their house being illuminated by 600 watts all night. (guesstimate)

in any case, so far so good.. the lights are off much more often.. not left on continually (I'm probably saving them money

last night it looked like some lights were on but didn't have that direct glare look of a bare bulb, so they may have shaded some.. in addition to keeping them off more, I'm encouraged. i will see next time its clear and I'm fully dark adapted, it should be obvious if they put some shades on some of them..

they never responded to me yet in any way and i was honestly a bit PO'd about some of the responses i got,  so i have not yet done the proper thing of thanking them for any changes.. i will at some point, once i can tell theres some ongoing change. they don't strike me as nice people so I'm not looking to bend over backwards.. we might sell this place at some point as well, and since i never interact with them , other than their lights, not in any rush to talk with them unless it doesn't stay/get better.

ironically regarding their comment suggesting i put shades up.. once, a few years ago, they came to our house asking us if we'd stop our dogs from barking as they had company and it was very annoying.   funny thing is that i did not suggest they get earplugs.

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2018, 05:36:43 AM »
Well then, release the hounds!