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Robert Cavalli

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2018, 11:18:41 AM »
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If I wanted to follow a comedy routine, I'd do so on an appropriate site.

Here, I was hoping to follow/participate in, a serious discussion of issues related to light pollution and light tresspass. IMO, it would be better not ot have to continually ask myself "Is this person trying to make a joke, or are they serious?"

Perhaps I'm in the wrong place for that to happen.

You make a good point, Ken.  For issues that we take seriously it's sometimes hard to see them treated in a tongue-in-cheek fashion.  But I think that facetious comments usually serve as a release for the poster's anger and frustration at feeling helpless to effect real change.  Fanciful thoughts of retribution have been going through my head for the last ten years after all diplomatically correct efforts failed to resolve my own problems with neighbors' outdoor lights.  When I stop engaging in comic mental retaliation, that will be the time to start worrying.

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2018, 01:45:29 PM »
Regarding the 10,000 moths, owl noise and elephant roar music:  :rofl5: I'm crackin' up.Glad everything is working out so far. Our neighbor has 4 flood lights that they keep on at all hours of the night. At one point, I mentioned to her how they shine into my bedroom window and light up the room, even through the blinds. They were off for maybe a week, then back to the old ways. A few months later, we had two sodium street lights that had blown in the neighborhood. She was over visting with my parents the night the third one had blew out (convinced kids were throwing rocks at them, how does 3 go out in a week?). She came out back to say hi and they instantly noticed the sky. It was so dark at the time, you could just barely see the frame of the Milky Way. She asked if I could show her some things, so I obliged. When she was looking at M7, she was complaining about a light glare in the eyepiece, and when she asked what it was, I pointed at her flood lights. Boy, that moment felt so good.   If she sees me setting up over the fence, she will usually leave the lights off all night now. People tend to think we're just being difficult or picky until they see first-hand how much of a difference it makes.

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2018, 04:34:12 PM »
Last night I can see they have some shading and /or reduced wattage lights they've put in , and...... Left them on until late.. I'll still need my light shades...I have no idea what at will be like.. I can estimate there is perhaps 2/3 less glare now so that is good.. There's only one light that appears to be unshielded and that one isn't on much.. They have something like 6-8 lights.. 6 are on , then they flick on additional ones "as needed" (ha!) and/or motion detect. It's true, a parking lot light from a business about 3 blocks away shines right in my eyes now that the leaves are gone., amazing how little direct glare affects viewing. So I haven't been out yet with their new changes (clouds) .. But it looks like A) I'll still need shades (no big deal) andB) there appears to be MUCH less up lighting of the big 80' trees all around my yard, which the shades can't help with.. So this is good. Also they do tend to turn them off late at night but sometimes not till after mdight. So.. As I know from reading here, it could be worse.. I've gained some improvement, once I get over being *BLEEP* I'll invite them to take a peek through the scope. Maybe . ;

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2018, 09:43:57 PM »
Matt, it looks like they are at least trying.  I would definitely make the gesture of inviting them over to look thru your scope.  It may help with them going even further (turning lights off sooner, etc.).  Never know until you try.Glad they did as much as they did!  How about a new picture showing the lights now?

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2018, 09:49:29 PM »
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Matt, it looks like they are at least trying.  I would definitely make the gesture of inviting them over to look thru your scope.  It may help with them going even further (turning lights off sooner, etc.).  Never know until you try.Glad they did as much as they did!  How about a new picture showing the lights now?
+1Invite 'em over not just for a viewing, invite 'em over for supper/barbeque preceding the viewing.  By these people's lights, er perspective, they bent over to meet you more than halfway, even though from your perspective it's still only a bit better than half...um, moon.  But flies attract honey better than vin...oh, fuggetaboutit youknowaddimean  You never know...the result might be even lead to further progress over time in reducing their inclinations toward being quite so lit-up so much of the time.

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2018, 05:20:30 AM »
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they never responded to me yet in any way and i was honestly a bit PO'd about some of the responses i got, so i have not yet done the proper thing of thanking them for any changes.. i will at some point, once i can tell theres some ongoing change. they don't strike me as nice people so I'm not looking to bend over backwards..


Obviously, the OP is uncomfortable with them, so inviting them over for a dinner might be pushing the comfort zone way too much.  Small steps, such as a peek thru his scope would lay the pathway as to any larger endeavors, if possible.

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2018, 09:50:00 PM »
Yea.. A peak  is reasonable.. I've been here 10 years at least and we never speak so I'm not looking to make friends , I'd be willing to share a view in hopes of opening peoples perspective a little bit though.. Even to the infidels  : I'll get a new pic although I've no idea what exposure settings the original pic was last year.. Still I'll try to get an exposure that matches the visual .

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Re: Well I did it....approached the neighbors
« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2018, 05:16:16 AM »
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Yea.. A peak  is reasonable.. I've been here 10 years at least and we never speak so I'm not looking to make friends , I'd be willing to share a view in hopes of opening peoples perspective a little bit though.. Even to the infidels  : I'll get a new pic although I've no idea what exposure settings the original pic was last year.. Still I'll try to get an exposure that matches the visual .
Open the photo with JPEGsnoop or similar program, it'll show you the exposure. Unless you took the photo with CHDK using a script, edited in mspaint, etc.