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brentioscaraph

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Re: Why light pollution will never end
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2018, 11:42:02 AM »
And in my country, astronomy isn't the big impact to make people or government stopping planting lights everywhere, in fact government are waiting people to thank them for providing lights most places, and in fact in the radio everyday i hear people complaining about no lights in their areas or where they live, so it is desperately that astronomers in my country will be listened, and i am not against astronomers, but i can't be against those people who are seeking for lights in their environment, i just hope or wish that government can submit new good light that have less issues for sky or light pollution.

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Re: Why light pollution will never end
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2018, 06:18:48 PM »
Most of the neighbors don't keep porch lights on very much and most never use floodlights. The one who does sticks out a like sore thumb.

The general population doesn't seem to be actively seeking out to light up the night, but it doesn't protest very much when someone else decides to install new or brighter lights.

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Re: Why light pollution will never end
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2018, 09:01:30 PM »
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And in my country, astronomy isn't the big impact to make people or government stopping planting lights everywhere, in fact government are waiting people to thank them for providing lights most places, and in fact in the radio everyday i hear people complaining about no lights in their areas or where they live, so it is desperately that astronomers in my country will be listened, and i am not against astronomers, but i can't be against those people who are seeking for lights in their environment, i just hope or wish that government can submit new good light that have less issues for sky or light pollution.

It would be OK for them to light their environment, just no one elses.

I was looking at the light pollution map for your country and noticed that most stretches of road are well-lit. You have some dark skies but no way to get to them and nowhere to set up if you could get to them.

Some of the artificial islands in the Gulf look to be in a green zone, are they accessible at night?

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Re: Why light pollution will never end
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2018, 10:04:23 PM »
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And in my country, astronomy isn't the big impact to make people or government stopping planting lights everywhere, in fact government are waiting people to thank them for providing lights most places, and in fact in the radio everyday i hear people complaining about no lights in their areas or where they live, so it is desperately that astronomers in my country will be listened, and i am not against astronomers, but i can't be against those people who are seeking for lights in their environment, i just hope or wish that government can submit new good light that have less issues for sky or light pollution.

It would be OK for them to light their environment, just no one elses.

I was looking at the light pollution map for your country and noticed that most stretches of road are well-lit. You have some dark skies but no way to get to them and nowhere to set up if you could get to them.

Some of the artificial islands in the Gulf look to be in a green zone, are they accessible at night?
Mostly the streets or roads aren't owned by someone, and most houses are near/next to each other, if someone asking for the light in the street so he can reach house the government will never plant one or very few for him, they will plant the lights the whole street or most parts of it, so one request and the whole roads are done, and some houses maybe doesn't like, but i really never never hear in radio or newspaper anyone complained about having street lights next to his door, or no groups who are annoyed by lights, so it is look like one request for all, and those who really doesn't like or doesn't want will never talk, we don't have, but even if someone complain about the light, it is mostly they try to solve that light for him only, so even if they remove one light or 2 next to his house, how much that will solve the light pollution in the whole area anyway?

So you saw the map of my country and you saw the suffering then, and we hate to drive far anyway, even if we do it is not 100% dark or not even 90%, so we don't bother, i will try from my yard anyway, i can do the sun and moon and few planets very easy, so this one isn't a worry, i will only worry about DSO.

I am not sure about the islands, some can be accessable, but to be honest, visiting islands in my country is like asking to meet the queen, you need to go under long request or meeting so many people or submitting for a visit and waiting the answer, and it is way way long distance because mostly it is only 2 ports to transport from, one could be nearby, but the other i have to drive so far to reach and have an access or approval, not worthy for me, i rather go to desert with some light pollution better than seeking approval to visit an island.

There are areas from the map as i can see that is yellow or orange or even green, not sure how good are those zones compared to my ed zone, but sounds the country is small, so even in yellow or green zones it won't be that much huge improvement LP, but in winter with cooler weather and non full moon i can see better the sky, say about 20% better than now, and my urban isn't too much light pollution anyway.

Look at the example in next post

Robert Spencer

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Re: Why light pollution will never end
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2018, 10:58:37 AM »
https://s26.postimg....fd/IMG_1171.jpg

https://s26.postimg....kvr/DSC2883.jpg

https://s26.postimg....0s7/DSC2871.jpg

What do you think about the above images?

the first one was taken long time ago when i was in a big house, still in red zone not much far from my current house, and i think that big house was light polluted much more than my current house, i mean the area, and i remember it was taken in winter.

the second last two were last month, from my current house, with a wide angle lens [Samyang 14mm], no mount and no guide or no tracking, only some shorter exposure, no filters even, and you can see the big dipper in that last pic, and that is the north and also where is my window facing, but i took that image from the front yard not from the window, judge how good or bad is the light pollution then.

Tommy Schmidt

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Re: Why light pollution will never end
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2018, 11:07:42 AM »
And if you want the moon, there here are few i did under light pollution before i get into astrophotography

https://s26.postimg....q5z/DSC0289.jpg
https://s26.postimg....3qv/DSC0303.jpg
https://s26.postimg....z/1_DSC0273.jpg
https://s26.postimg....b07/DSC2572.jpg

Even Jupiter i did

https://s26.postimg..../1_DS39514b.jpg

And to keep it under LP topic, here is a one exposure or frame of long exposure shot i think 30 second without tracking, here i used my ST80 on a normal tripod no mount, and i used filters so that the vignetting, but it didn't help, i did get UHC and OIII cheap filters i didn't test yet, maybe soon and see how it is.

https://s26.postimg....uv/IMG_5682.jpg