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unmoharib

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Re: Would you become a farmer to get away from LP?
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2018, 08:42:46 AM »
My late uncle live just outside of town and goats for hobby! He work as electric and small farm for his hobby! He don't want be full time farmer but some chicken and goats for hobby! Fresh brown eggs and goat milk!

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Re: Would you become a farmer to get away from LP?
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2018, 12:47:32 PM »
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My two cousins are full time farmer! Work all the time and rare take vacation but they like what they are doing!

Yes, there are two kinds of farmers -- the ones who are trapped in it and the ones who love it (not mutually exclusive!) All the farmers I know love it. But they sure do work hard.

Most of them also have second incomes; one or more people in the family work other jobs. That's been pretty much the norm here in the U.S. Northeast for the last 150 years.

Stephen Gupta

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Re: Would you become a farmer to get away from LP?
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2018, 02:22:26 AM »
If you're not working, you're not being productive....Corporate Rule #37.3....now, get back to work (Corporate Rule #2.1).

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Re: Would you become a farmer to get away from LP?
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2018, 09:38:19 PM »
I'd say a better idea is to find a good job, that you can live off of, in the smallest city you can find. Next, try to buy a house, or whatever, as far away from that city as possible (away from light pollution), but near enough so it isn't a hassle to get to work.

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Re: Would you become a farmer to get away from LP?
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2018, 02:09:21 AM »
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I'd say a better idea is to find a good job, that you can live off of, in the smallest city you can find. Next, try to buy a house, or whatever, as far away from that city as possible (away from light pollution), but near enough so it isn't a hassle to get to work.

Hmmmmmm, sounds like where they built the state prison......

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Re: Would you become a farmer to get away from LP?
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2018, 12:14:01 AM »
the best clearest skies of the year in my part of the midwest is sept / oct, and that is when the farmers are working hardest harvesting the crops

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Re: Would you become a farmer to get away from LP?
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2018, 02:07:02 PM »
True, and I see them harvesting not just during the day, but often long into the night as well.

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Re: Would you become a farmer to get away from LP?
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2018, 03:15:31 PM »
I would think the long hours of a farmer and going to sleep and getting up early would interfere with astronomy. A better option might be to to get a job that allows you to work through the internet and then you can pretty much live wherever you want.

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Re: Would you become a farmer to get away from LP?
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2018, 02:16:50 AM »
Or buy the land and let the neighbor farm it with the cost being keeping the weeds/grass under control......Unless you grew up farming, having land in the countryside is for retirees who allow the neighbor farmers to use the land wisely....

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Re: Would you become a farmer to get away from LP?
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2018, 01:46:15 AM »
There are many aspects of being a farmer that would go counter to enjoying astronomy as your hobby. Some have been cited up-stream, but there are many others and the problems for farmers seem to grow worse as one moves eastward across the United States.Over the years I've known a number of local farmers. Virtually ALL wish they had gone into some other occupation years ago! Since 1970 about 95% of the farms (mostly truck or dairy farms) in my area have failed, often after being worked by the same families for countless generations. Much of this has been due to rising farm land taxes and low product prices. There is also the fact that the income of most area farm families is at or near poverty level, even though these people are the hardest workers I ever seen and to this day work dawn to past dusk.Now if you can start out rich enough to buy say 500 or 1,000  acres to isolate yourself and have the back-up cash in the bank to cover projected taxes over the course of your lifetime, it might be fun to consider becoming a "gentleman farmer/astronomer". But short of that option, I'd say you'd have to be out of your mind to voluntarily choose that life and still anticipate having any leisure time to pursue astronomy.BrooksObs

James Gruber

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Re: Would you become a farmer to get away from LP?
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2018, 03:11:58 AM »
Stargazer193857,In a word, not just no, but not a chance! BTDT My family had a farm for generations. Back in the 50's it became a dairy farm. The family sent all of it's kids to the farm whenever the schools had a break to work it. Summer we were all sent there so my great Aunt & Uncle could have a vacation and the parents of the kids that got sent, rotated in & out for 2 weeks at a time. Today it "might" have made it. All natural dairy farming, including hand milking 100 head twice a day, back then the USDA mandated which fertilizer, hormones, inspections, etc you had to do in order to market your products. They also had chickens for eggs, pigs for bacon, whatever beef they wanted they raised & fed off the farm. All the venison, & rabbit we could possibly want. The best crop that place ever grew was ROCKS! Lots of them, that to be removed from fields in order to till, then manure to be spread, seed to be planted, yadadada. TONS of work, up dawn for the 1st milking of the day, then breakfast, then cleaning the milking parlor. Then lunch. After lunch was weeding the vegetable garden, then hitching up the team to remove the rocks from the fields (No tractor BTW, Percherons). Piling the rocks on the fence rows at the edge of the fields. Then the evening feeding & milking. Some of the older boys would saddle up the horses & ride the fences to make sure they were in good repair. They'd take note of what needed work & a team of us would go out & fix it before fall. Endless, backbreaking, thankless, work. I'll pay for what my family eats, No Problem. American farmers are more productive than any other farms on the planet, & they can't make a living. [email protected] shame. My families' farm is now a strip mall outside of Emmitsburg, Md. Almost 200 years on that land. Nobody in the family wanted to commit to take over running it, so my great Aunt & Uncle could retire. They had lost their only son in 'Nam in '67. They sold out & bought a place in Florida.I like my solution a little better. I'm putting a dome on a farm in upper Montgomery County. Everything self-contained, Solar Power, Full automation, satellite link to the net. If I need to actually work on it, it's only ~15miles away. In return, I'll lower the amount of crop damage he's having as much as humanly possible. He's not too worried about rabbits, just deer. I counted 40 of them in one herd one evening. They get within 10 yards of where I'm going to put my observatory. He gets the permits, & I fill them, process them, then we eat them. Clear Dark SkiesStartraffic39.138274 -77.168898

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Re: Would you become a farmer to get away from LP?
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2018, 11:06:13 PM »
need big land! In Illinois is very expensive! Over 6,000 dollars per acre for at least 100 acres! around 20,000 dollars per acre for less than 50 acres and about 30,000 to 35,000 dollars for one acre! That's why I might afford around 5 acres for fun, hunting and fishing but for farm...forget it! I know many farmers have to sell land close to city or suburb because tax per acre is way soooooo high!

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Re: Would you become a farmer to get away from LP?
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2018, 11:37:20 PM »
In the 1970’s I was able to find a great job at a defense plant (built in early WWII in an ‘air attack safe’ location) located in a sparsely populated rural NY area, and I worked there until retirement.In New York farming is greatly reduced. I saw a recent local history article in the news paper that notes that the level of forestation in NY’s Southern Tier is back to what it was in 1800 (first generation of settlement), because so many farms have failed. The current trend will bring it to the pre-Columbian level if it continues. The NY DEC is considering an idea of keeping some land cleared because the prairie birds that moved in during the late 19th Century are disappearing thanks to the returning forest. NY’s mountain regions (mag 6 or 7 skies) also have the highest unemployment and welfare rates in the state – partly because forestry and mining are also declining.Two bad words to consider: “gas frack’ing” ~ that equal light pollution in the middle of nowhere.

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Re: Would you become a farmer to get away from LP?
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Re: Would you become a farmer to get away from LP?
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2018, 11:22:01 AM »
I <em class="bbc">would become a hermit, if I had enough dough to buy a big swath of land in the NM mountains, plus enough to get by thereafter. (not going to happen, but it's a nice thought)