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Richard Gayer

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Moving your mount around
« on: December 27, 2017, 01:35:16 PM »
I am seeking a smart way to move my telescope and mount as a complete rig from in the house to outside.
Mine is based on the Ioptron tripier.

Of course one can buy al kinds of dolly movers for plenty $$.
I have tried those little 3 wheel cup shaped movers, but their wheels are to small. The legs slide off when you hit a little edge or some sand.
We are all very creative in inventing methods to make life easy in a affordable way.
Obvious that it needs to be easy detachable for AP purposes.
I am curious to see what you have build, constructed, tied, knotted together or whatever "smart" solution you have dreamed up.
Not only for me, but to share this across the forum.
I am looking forward to your solutions.
Arie



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Re: Moving your mount around
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2017, 07:04:06 PM »
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I am seeking a smart way to move my telescope and mount as a complete rig from in the house to outside.
Mine is based on the Ioptron tripier.
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Of course one can buy al kinds of dolly movers for plenty $$.
I have tried those little 3 wheel cup shaped movers, but their wheels are to small. The legs slide off when you hit a little edge or some sand.
We are all very creative in inventing methods to make life easy in a affordable way.
Obvious that it needs to be easy detachable for AP purposes.
I am curious to see what you have build, constructed, tied, knotted together or whatever "smart" solution you have dreamed up.
Not only for me, but to share this across the forum.
I am looking forward to your solutions.
Arie

You can do what I did, buy one of the movers (in my case the JMI model) used and save hundreds of $. You can also install larger wheelsto accommodate for rougher surfaces or even pneumatic wheels to handle lawns anduneven surfaces.

Douglas Preece

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Re: Moving your mount around
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2018, 05:01:35 AM »
The biggest "limiting factor" is how wide of a space do you have to go through? Are you able to go through a garage door size opening or sliding glass doors, or do you have to navigate through a standard door way?

I have an idea for a product that i've been kicking around that would solve this problem and allow you to have a portable setup that goes through a standard door.

I am fortunate to have a garage with room, so i use a fully size scope buggy.... however, i would prefer to be able to go in and out of my house and keep it in my spare room instead of out in the garage...

Adam Rice

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Re: Moving your mount around
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2018, 08:17:09 AM »
Consider yourself lucky.
In the Netherlands we unfortunately don't have a shop that sells used JMI tripod caddies.

Hi Dave,
In my case I have to go through a sliding door. So need to cross a guide rail.
There is usually some dirt on my terras, so those small coaster wheels stall in it.I am thinking along the lines of 3 small easy devices. One on each leg, that folds up or sideways.
So the tripod rests on its own feet.
Not a clumsy big tri-angular apparatus with a pull bar.

Duane Berhane

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Re: Moving your mount around
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2018, 04:33:46 AM »
Does your tripod go through the door straight on or do you have to put one leg out, the "rotate" to get it to fit through the sliding glass door?

Jeff Smith

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Re: Moving your mount around
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2018, 11:49:42 AM »
Sorry not a mind reader so I'm not going to try and guess your budget limitation or your vocabulary of "dolly movers.." of what is in/out....
I'd suggest getting a hand-truck. maybe modifying it so the top folds out of the way,
and that is permanently attached to the main structure of the mount/tripod.
Also I can't predict your requirements of the weight you can handle,
so tipping it on a hand truck is a skill I assume you can handle since you insist on moving the complete setup w/o removing scope and counterweights.....

I've seen other setups with a similar permanent hand truck attachment, and they do well....

Otherwise you could have a variation on that theme,
have 2 sets of parallel hand truck wheels that descend from the base structure.

Eric Hayes

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Re: Moving your mount around
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2018, 07:36:53 PM »
Not exactly what you're looking for but I saw this on Portland, OR craigslist. Thought it was a great way to move a scope around.Attached Thumbnails




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Re: Moving your mount around
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2018, 05:45:45 AM »
FWIW,
Here's an example it took me 10 seconds to find using the CN search feature:
https://www.cloudyni...-2#entry7781328

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Re: Moving your mount around
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2018, 03:48:58 PM »
I have a loose gravel driveway. What works for me is a U shape constructed from 2x4's and a hand truck. I have not been trying to move the scope with this, just the mount and portable pier. You lift up and place the tripod feet in the channel, then use the hand truck. The channel needs to be just slightly bigger then the tripod feet. If the channel is too big, then the mount starts shifting around. This might be too big for a sliding door.

Jorge Herbert

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Re: Moving your mount around
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2018, 04:12:59 PM »
Arie - I love your mustache.

Cheers !

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Re: Moving your mount around
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2018, 09:35:49 PM »
It's natural

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Re: Moving your mount around
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2018, 11:29:27 PM »
Hi Arie,
I built my tripod dolly. When I get home I'll see if I can snap a photo. It's not hard to do, but all the designs I saw were triangular... The door I need to go through is 34" and my CGE tripod legs sit 36" apart. Triangle won't work, but a simple "T" will... And the long leg of the "T" holds the leg of the tripod you want facing North, so that's pretty handy. I can angle the whole rig through the door. I used big 5 1/2 solid rubber wheels from the big-box home depot store. They are rated at like 350lbs each, overkill, but I didn't want to be stuck with the little bitty wheels.

I did see a solution on You-Tube awhile back where a fellow fabricated brackets that attached to each leg of the tripod using "U" bolts. Pretty clever. He had a way where it only took a few mins to "drop" each leg assembly so the tripod would sit in it's natural state. I'll see if that is still in my You Tube history. His idea is probably close to what you want, but he had access to a machine shop (you could tell in the video) and was able to fabricate (cut, bend, twist and drill) 1/4" steel plate to make custom brackets... Bit out of my league.

Good luck,
Mr. Joey

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Re: Moving your mount around
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2018, 12:16:34 AM »
I did this for my forked SCT. You might get some ideas.


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Re: Moving your mount around
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2018, 06:13:12 AM »
The little caster issue. I did put some cups on them not to lose them straight awaThis is my set-up nowadaysLots of wiring going up and down.
I did make a umbilical with wires like USB and power leads, that easily disconnects from the mount.
But still. If the scope and all is balanced and in focus, I think it is comfortable if the whole thing could be kept like that.
Then shooting your flats can be done at a later stage.

Attaching something to the column of the tripier is not going work (for me)

I do want to commend the person who fabricated the wooden wheeled carrier.
"Wheelbarrow" would be an insult to such fine craftsmanship.
A nice example of "out off (actually -into-) the box" thinking.

The T-bar option I came to my mind as well. It is simple and cheap.
But I wish to land the tripod on its own feet.
We buy a costly and stable tripod put it on a dolly and next we lift it on 3 flimsy 1/2" studs.
How does that compare to the gel-filled vibration dampener pads or the big concrete blocks people put in the ground for their fixed set-ups.
For visual this might be OK, but for long exposure AP I don't think it is the thing to do.
I keep on puzzling.